this post was submitted on 24 Aug 2024
371 points (95.1% liked)

NonCredibleDefense

6444 readers
504 users here now

A community for your defence shitposting needs

Rules

1. Be niceDo not make personal attacks against each other, call for violence against anyone, or intentionally antagonize people in the comment sections.

2. Explain incorrect defense articles and takes

If you want to post a non-credible take, it must be from a "credible" source (news article, politician, or military leader) and must have a comment laying out exactly why it's non-credible. Random twitter and YouTube comments belong in the Low Hanging Fruit thread.

3. Content must be relevant

Posts must be about military hardware or international security/defense. This is not the page to fawn over Youtube personalities, simp over political leaders, or discuss other areas of international policy.

4. No racism / hatespeech

No slurs. No advocating for the killing of people or insulting them based on physical, religious, or ideological traits.

5. No politics

We don't care if you're Republican, Democrat, Socialist, Stalinist, Baathist, or some other hot mess. Leave it at the door. This applies to comments as well.

6. No seriousposting

We don't want your uncut war footage, fundraisers, credible news articles, or other such things. The world is already serious enough as it is.

7. No classified material

Classified information is off limits regardless of how "open source" and "easy to find" it is.

8. Source artwork

If you use somebody's art in your post or as your post, the OP must provide a direct link to the art's source in the comment section, or a good reason why this was not possible (such as the artist deleting their account). The source should be a place that the artist themselves uploaded the art. A booru is not a source. A watermark is not a source.

9. No low-effort posts

No egregiously low effort posts. These include Social media screenshots with a title punchline / no punchline, recent (after the start of the Ukraine War) reposts, simple reaction & template memes, and images with the punchline in the title. Put these in weekly Low effort thread instead.

10. Don't get us banned

No brigading or harassing other communities. Do not post memes with a "haha people that I hate died… haha" punchline or violating the sh.itjust.works rules (below). This includes content illegal in Canada.


Join our Matrix chatroom


Other communities you may be interested in


Banner made by u/Fertility18

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

$8.3 trlllion in wealth

That is like 10 times the US yearly military budget. Where are you getting these numbers from?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

No clue. I'm seeing closer to 300 billion sited.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago

Nobody knows the exact number as they hide their wealth using all sorts of shady methods. We do know they had more than 100 billion in just one investment account. They also own over 1 million acres of agricultural land, and large amounts of commercial real estate. Tracking all the business entities they own around the world is also difficult as they commonly use shell companies and other methods to hide their ownership.

Any estimate you find is just a guess.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

I think they messed up their decimal point. I just made a modest donation, so they should have around $83 Trillion

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

This is non-credible defense, I think you know where those numbers come from.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Sounds like bullshit ngl number of mormons (17 million) times the average american net worth (1 million) = 17 trillion.

Does the temple literally own half the wealth of their congregation?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They collect a tithe of 10% of members’ income from the entire congregation. Most people accumulate less than 10% of their income as net worth annually

So yes, quite possibly they do.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Plus, they have been around fore more than 190 years. With smart investments and only 5% growth per year, your wealth doubles over 15 years. They also own land, so with land value going up they made a lot of profit if they just rent it out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

And when those 10% get invested you get good returns... then when you have a large pool of money you can join use the TBTF cheat squads to earn a very high return with minimal risk.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And that's assuming that all 17 million mormons the LDS church claims to have actually exist. It's kind of annoying to get deleted from their rolls, so a lot of people who leave don't bother. Also, many of those 17 million live in much poorer nations than the US.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

That 17 million is a vast overestimation of their worldwide attendance. Real numbers, based off of cellphone data, are closer to 4 million.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

I was counting in Hryvnias

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Okay, so I’m not a big fan of the LDS church, but can we talk about how unironically hard that Hornet regalia goes?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

AI jet, hornet inspired but not hornet in actuality.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Right, just change the church specific stuff to random shit and I'm 100% sold.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would have thought the jet in the picture was a Mexican Cartel jet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

It’s missing the chrome wire wheels tho

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They need to save that for their spaceship

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

trusting the OPA to build you a spaceship

What did they expect?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

It spinned though

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“In the name of god”

Fires sidewinder at target

“Fuck you”

Target blows up

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A good Mornon would say "Fudge you." You ain't gonna get a recommend from your Stake President if you use language like that.

Don't forget to pay your tithing and fast offerings!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Nah, fudge is for kids and Christmas. For outbursts, use "fetch," and in this context, "screw" is appropriate.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Wouldn't biblically accurate fighter jets have 6 wings or something like that?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

ChatGPT4o made it, and we all know that ChatGPT is not capable of being wrong.

I also asked for a biblically accurate stealth bomber and got this:

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Looks like the new wish.com-lookin’ “stealth” bomber the Russians say they’re making, but almost certainly won’t actually produce

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

No this is a King James version fighter jet.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, it looks pretty cool tho...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Religion + Weapons = Bad Idea

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Recite with me the sacred texts

GIMME FUEL
GIMME FIRE
GIMME THAT WHICH I DESIRE

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

WEEEE WILL FIGHT THE HEATHENS! WEEEE WILL FIGHT THE HEATHENS!

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Voices in OP's head, I'd wager

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Good for meme

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

These would cover more ground than bicycles

You shut your whore mouth; bicycles are awesome!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Its also factually incorrect, jet fighters fly in the air, they don't go on the ground

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Um, they have tires. They can obviously be driven on streets. Can't use HOV lanes though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well there are special provisions for vehicles where all the seats are full, so they probably can

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yup, motorcycles are allowed in HOV lanes, and I assume trikes are as well. A fighter jet is just a trike with wings and a lot of weaponry.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

That is a completely made up number.

The corporation of the Mormon church does have absurd wealth and resources, tons of real estate, investments, etc, but estimates say it is worth between 100-300 billion in worth.

That's a lot, but definitely not trillions lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Does LDS theology allow crusades?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

They call them missions and they do a fuckton of them

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

They be saving up to build a big ass ship out at Tycho, I've seen it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Am i supposed to know every weird sect on the world?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Biblically accurate helicopter in action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hQ7bWtYJXo

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Or fund medics and veteran rehabilitation and move the surplus to weapons, for a guilt-free donation

load more comments
view more: next ›