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Fallout: London is a must-play. The marriage of Fallout 4’s more modern gameplay and New Vegas’ exemplary role-playing mechanics is a match made in heaven, one that occasionally surpasses Bethesda’s 2015 game.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It just shows that Bethesda is absolutely dogshit in making good games.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (3 children)

They make game engines and rely on the community for the rest.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They made 1 (one) game engine, and keep propping it up every release.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

me giggling when i realized V.A.T.S. had been reused for ship combat in Starfield.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I want a FO or TES game that's just a modder playground.

  • Build the world, don't populate it with anything.
  • Divide the world into a grid, let modders submit mods to a central database and register them with the grid squares they alter.
  • Let the game download an assortment of mods (maybe using user-defined tags to preference certain content) that fills out the world, using their grid square registration system to ensure no overlapping / conflicting content.)
  • Let players rate content they play.
  • Reward the modders who made popular content in some way.

Obviously there's a lot of glaring problems with this, but in my head, it'd be awesome.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sounds like you just invented Roblox.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Second Life 😤

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Definitely sounds like an interesting concept. I can also imagine some people seeing it as developers not actually making a game, instead getting their community to do the work.

I think maybe letting people design a building or block at a time, then doing voting and integrating the winner into the game could be a neat way to go about it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

That's basically Starfield, and what it's trying to do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

barely. have you seen how buggy bethesda games are?

i dont get how they are still a thing

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

As someone who played The Frontier and even finished the NCR questline for it, I've been playing London a lot. I do want to say that those looking for full New Vegas level roleplaying are going to be disappointed. There are SPECIAL checks, and traits do make a return, but by and large this is closer to Fallout 3 than it is to New Vegas. Checks aren't that frequent, this is more of a return to Fallout 3's "horror RPG" style where roaming and exploring makes up the backbone of gameplay with quests meant to take you to new areas and dungeons, largely.

That being said, it's a great game. There are problems with some of the writing, the Strike Quest where the outcome no matter what seems to be a resolution of two individuals and not the much larger number of striking workers is a horrible depiction of labor rights movements. However, the level design is generally really cool and atmospheric, and a lot of the concepts are extremely fresh.

More than anything, it makes me super excited to see the release of Fallout 4: New Vegas, Fallout: Cascadia, and Fallout: Miami. It's a surprisingly great execution on a non-US Fallout, and feels fresh, but doesn't reach the height of New Vegas.

That last detail is why I am so thrilled for Fallout 4: New Vegas. NV modding is incredible, don't get me wrong, but the visual upgrade going from New Vegas fully graphically modded to Fallout 4 Vanilla is stark. Imagining playing through New Vegas but with nicer gunplay and graphical fidelity has me incredibly hopeful.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

thanks for the detailed insight

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I looked a bit around but could not find current information for a Fallout 4: New Vegas Mod, do you have a link?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Here's a gameplay trailer from 2020. It's still in active dev, it just takes a long time and the team prefers not to give updates frequently, you can check the discord server.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

What is this, Nineteen Eighty-Four?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How does one go about playing this game? Do you need 4 installed?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yup. It's a mod for Fallout 4. See the official Release page: https://fallout4london.com/release/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Ah I see it doesn't work with the Gamepass or VR versions of 4 which are the ones I have. That's a shame. Maybe they'll port to Gamepass in the future.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Fallout 4's more modern gameplay? Oh shut up. They lost me right there. Not that i did not enjoy Fallout 4, do not get me wrong. But it sure is not modern in any way that counts. Quite the opposite. It already feeled aged at release.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In comparison to Vanilla New Vegas, Vanilla 4 is indeed more modern and smooth to play.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I did not compare Fallout 4 to New Vegas but to the time it came out. Which is 5 years later btw. New Vegas had a compelling story telling and role playing while Fallout 4 could barely shine with some minor modernizations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, that's why the post is saying it keeps the modernizations of 4 while treading towards the game design of New Vegas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Ok fair enough