Housing Bubble 2: Return of the Ugly

That’s slightly better but it’s still putting stuff over people.

Then just build a house instead

I want to own something and I want an actual garden to grow things in.

I lived in a duplex for 5 years and the neighbors were so stupid they made me move out.

I live here. The fuck does everybody want to move here for? Public transit sucks, traffic congestion abound, school system is dogshit, you have the elderly that can't drive but still do and are usually horribly bigoted and racist at the W and E ends of the valley, like they are doing a flanking maneuver. We've been in a drought for decades, the power system is only 'fine' even though we have a fucking nuclear plant outside phoenix, plus solar and hydro. We have rich cunts in the east valley and the west is deteriorating even with the constant population and building expansion.

I like it here because I was born here, everything I know is here. But objectively, anybody wanting to move here is both insane and braindead. It's fucking baffling.

Ive heard the city of Pheonix described as "the single greatest testament to man's arrogance"... But idk

It is a bad place to live. The GOP destroyed the bus system, delayed the light rail, starved the schools, poisoned the police departments, and just generally fucked up as much shit as they could before they got voted out.

On top of that you have the climate and two of the deadliest highway stretches in America. (One gets sandstorms, the other gets blizzards and features cliffs)

And the local politics is so crappy they managed to push an NHL team out of the market.

Temperature wise it is different— from Oct - April it is amazing

When I was in 4th grade , I couldn’t understand why the passengers on Titanic died in the water. In Phx it was always so warm.

From May - September you are living on the surface of the Sun.

As a cyclist, is get up at 4 so I could do 50 miles and be home by 9 before it hit 100. You don’t go out unless it is to get in the pool. Unless you really must.

It would take a 300000 /yr for me to consider living there again

—moved away at 20. Don’t ever want to go back

For me it would just be too damn hot, I'm not real keen on living in a desert.

I don't know this "garage" you speak of, but my house came with a 25' x 25' detached storage unit with two large overhead bay doors. Oddly, the neighbors store their cars in theirs.

If you live anywhere that has extreme temperatures, your car will last longer if you park it inside. Bonus, you don't have to scrape the snow off and sit there idling for 10 min to warm it up in the winter.

Ah so it's "livable square feet" on the post or w/e it's called, not total