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Edit: There's a lot of people in the comment section who clearly didn't read the article so let me clarify that no, this is not about Judge Aileen Cannon. Read. The. Damn. Article.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I still can’t believe that all the rural redneck idiots are willing to start a Civil War for a failed corrupt New York City businessman, who represents everything they don’t stand for in the name of creating a fascist dictatorship and stripping away all of your rights so that the rich people can continue to fuck you in the ass.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Most of them think the war will turn the economic tides and somehow turn their rural towns into utopian areas where all the wealth from the cities is funneled into their shitty towns. They want the status and earning of being an engineer, doctor, or lawyer without trying or educating themselves.

What is sad is all conservatives are willing to kill us, our children, and everything we worked for for this ideal and for a corrupt, failed New York businessman that sells military secrets to our enemies.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What's ironic is that it's the liberal-eating-local-buy-local-equality-socialist types that are are subsidizing their ability to live in that small rural town at all.

County State Aid roads, clean water infrastructure, education, business development grants, farm grants... All of that is paid for by big city taxes, which typically (not always... Looking at you Ft. Worth...) lean liberal. In my state one rural community received tax funding at a rate of 480% compare to what they paid in, where as the city center reviebes about 60% of the taxes they pay.

Farm-to-table? Anti-trust regulations? Farm subsidies? The USDA rural development? All paid for in large part by taxes, most of which come from city centers.

And yet exactly what you said - they want liberal big cities gone. They see them as a plight upon the land.

It's crazy.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I'm not convinced he sells secrets. I'm pretty sure he gives them away because poo tin tells him it's in their best interests.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

I have Maga relatives, who have giddily spoken to me about finally getting to "blast the damn libs". I'm one of the people they are happily speaking about shooting down. Yeeeeesh

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

The real thing they love about him is that "we" hate him and with their support they think they can annoy us and "get back" at us for whatever they think we did to them. And they aren't wrong, people who hate Trump have a very hard time just ignoring the Trolls, me included.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 5 months ago (8 children)

This is one of the dumbest things about conservatives in the US ...... we're going to start a civil war - for Trump.

I could agree to many political arguments about rebelling against your own government but to say you want to start a civil war to defend a completely morally bankrupt individual that has absolutely no care for you at all has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever had the opportunity to see and hear.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 months ago (5 children)

MAGAs are being swindled and don't know it.

If you tell them they are being swindled, with proof, they won't believe it and take it out on you instead for suggesting it.

They'd rather be ignorant than be proven wrong. This is also why phone/computer scammers keep going after the same people. The victims never want to believe they were duped until it's too late.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (4 children)

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.”

― Carl Sagan

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

I love that quote. We need more Sagan's and fewer Rogans.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

I believe this is from Carl Sagan's book The Demon Haunted World. A fantastic read, and one I recommend to anyone who will listen.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Humanity has been victim to that for thousands of years in the form of world religions

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Til: to bamboozle is a real verb

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (13 children)

“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”
― Mark Twain

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

They're not being conned, they're in on the con. Notice how there is nothing consistently rational about the messaging. The issues they're concerned about and what they say they want done about them all change daily. But they all point in one direction.

They've identified themselves as the in-group, they've identified the out-groups, and they want to stomp all over those out-groups and take everything they've got. Their money, their dignity, their lives. Whatever proves that they're on top.

Remember the second part of that LBJ quote:

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

They know the consequences and they're willing to risk it. Calling them idiots does not prepare us to deal with the situation in which we find ourselves now.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Against who?

If it's against the government, then it's a coup d'état.
See how well that's working out for the January 6 crowd.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And that’s the thing, they don’t want a civil war with the government, they want a civil war with ‘liberals’. They can’t control government the way they want to so they instead want to eliminate the people who vote differently than they do.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No there won't.

Alternate headline: local inbreds big mad

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They are definitely trying to manifest a war

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I agree, their numbers, organization, and ammo reserves are not to be dismissed or underestimated.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I believe all of those except organization...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (6 children)

They see (largely) in terms of black and white with zero shades of gray. That makes for way less infighting than the Dems. It's their superpower.

It's how they're beating the left so handily.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

It has little to do with that, the problem is structural. They're beating the left because the political system is structured in a way that gives overwhelming advantage to the establishment with minority votes.

Their 35% wacko views are treated as equal to the 65% both by the political system and by the media - see manufacturing consent.

Meanwhile the left wing candidates or proposals are always both too left and not left enough - the pincer maneuver.

Take any issue and see how the left view is scrutinized in the mainstream compared to the right: Biden cancelling student debt? Both too left and not left enough. Obamacare? Same. Guns? Same. Pick your poison.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Boy it sure says an awful lot about Maga that they are going to go to war for a swollen pustule like Humpty Trumpty. If it's a movement, wouldn't it transcend a single individual? What a weak group of simpletons.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"I'm going to jail for an NFT salesman."

---Unite the Right organizer and general alt right fuckbucket Baked Alaska upon being sentenced for his participation in the 01/06 riots

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago

The Trumpist insurrection ends one of only two ways for the Trumpists.

  1. They end up in prison.

  2. They end up dead.

See January 6, 2021.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)

"There will be a civil war!" - Somebody definitely not prepared to fight in any kind of war.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The thing I worry about is how much more angry some Americans will become as AI starts to really eat up the jobs. The radicalized far right wing has already painted Big Tech as somehow liberal/leftist (lol) because they are being "censored" on platforms like pre-Xitter Twitter or Facebook.

Imagine how they'll react when it becomes obvious that "Big Tech" has come/is coming for their jobs. I fear people that were unradicalized before may suddenly be thrown into despair with lots of time on their hands, and the usual suspects giving them easy "answers" as to the cause. You just know that DEI, "woke", and Biden's hard drive, oops, I mean, "laptop" will be the kinds of things blamed for it.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (7 children)

If or when some crazy yahoos “declare” a civil war. All those toy soldiers aka weekend warriors. You know the type who own 300 guns lives in a bomb shelter and has been praying for the world to end since 1979. Those folks with have to contend with not you or me per say. The will contend with the United States Military. The tuffest military and the most trained, and frankly who has the best toys in the world for killing people. Our military is well versed in urban and rural fighting techniques. Did i mention the also own a bunch of drones. Yeah im not to worried

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (6 children)

If they organize, they won't even make it to the military, they will be quickly stopped by our militarized police force. I fear that this is going to end up with crazy people commiting random acts of terrorism.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some of those that work forces...

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Crazy people are already committing random acts of terrorism, remember when some Trumper took out an electrical substation about a year ago and left a couple dozen thousand people without heat or power in the dead of winter? All that to shut down a drag show (supposedly).

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I think it's important to remember how many civilians we killed in Iraq trying to get the bad ones. Yes, the US military would put down an insurrection... I don't know know how fast it would be, and I don't know that they wouldn't kill my kids when they drone strike the guy down the street...

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (4 children)

It must be Friday, because MAGA is threatening civil war but they're sitting down. Do it or shut the fuck up, cowards.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

They are all pussies. PBR drinking, fox "news" watching red faced fat asses. I hope they do attempt a "civil" war. The world will be a better place without them and they'll be curb stomped in about .3 seconds.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Do they actually think the military will join them?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Even if they did, how long do they think planning a war against the united states would take?

Do they remember how it went last time they pulled this?

Ending reconstruction was a Fucking mistake.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Civil War? Sounds serious.

So when are democrats dropping gun control?

SocialistRA.org

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (5 children)

gun control is too politicized of a term to be used specifically. It can range from "taking away all guns ever, completely, forever" to "hey maybe don't give violent offenders guns probably" Which is a uh variety of opinions that one can have.

Though in terms of stats, dems, queer people, minorities, etc... Are all arming themselves at increasing rates, as the founding fathers intended.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Any of his idiot base that think it's worthwhile to have a....checks notes....civil war over this stupid buffoon deserve the inevitable outcome.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (12 children)

There won't be a civil war unless\until the prospect of a civil war starts to look profitable to the .1%.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If you mean more traitors will go to prison and be removed from the voter pool, neat!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

Translation: the few nutty enough to put plans to action will commit cowardly terrorist acts that make magats even more detested. Just because fascist asshats couldn't settle for being overrepresented.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Shouldn't come as a surprise really. They have even set a date for April the 12th

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_War_(film)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Well, it wouldn't be too difficult to defeat a gullible and unstable army

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Well, we're waiting MAGA boys. Go for it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Bring it on, fatties!

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