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[–] [email protected] 133 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The vote was 336 to 95, clearing the two-thirds threshold required for passage. In the end, 209 Democrats and 127 Republicans joined to pass the bill. Ninety-three Republicans opposed it, as did two Democrats.

While this is technically bipartisan, a majority of the votes are from Democrats. Once again it’s up to congressional Democrats to save the GOP from itself (not to mention America from the GOP) and keep the government functioning.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 10 months ago

Yes. They stated they would vote for a clean bill and then did what they said. Like adults.

[–] [email protected] 106 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Masturbatin' Mike Johnson just got his first legislative win!

I'm so proud of this man who sends his porn history to his underage son.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I hope that nickname sticks lol

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

It's definitely sticky...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

"My girl got sick so I'm stuck here on Friday night pulling a Johnson"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Copied a previous comment of mine. There's some ugly context to this:

Former fundie here. Y'all are probably misinterpreting what is going on.

Mike Johnson is a True Believer™ from what I've seen. Doesn't mean he's not a terrible person, but his motives and actions aren't necessarily as simple as repressed urges to view gay porn.

The most likely explanation is that Mike Johnson's son was watching porn and got caught, probably more than once. He probably admitted his guilt early on, but he attempted to hide the activity. So, not only do you have the kid for sexual immorality but you've got him for dishonesty. After hours of lectures at the boy - involving his mother, father, possibly clergy or youth leadership - the poor kid is probably swearing on a stack of bibles that he sees the light and will never do it again. That's not good enough. He can't be trusted as this isn't the first time.

This passage was probably pounded in bone deep:

Matthew 5:

27Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. 29And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 30And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

So, the boy should rip out his own eyes and cut off the hand he jacks off with. Maybe he should castrate himself. If the behavior continues, he's willfully hellbound. Doesn't he understand?

So, Mike Johnson, wonderful paragon of fatherly leadership, says they will both install this software. That way he can prove what a good person he is and bear the cross of his son's sin. See how great he is? He's helping the boy with his problem. Barf.

So, now the kid's 'sin' is making national news and impacting his father who is a Great Man™.

Christian guilt in a nutshell.

I really feel for the poor bastard. Hopefully he makes it out from under the shadow of his father's insanity. It's truly evil shit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I also grew up a fundie evangelical and am out of it now (and coincidentally ‘out’ now at nearly 40).

This is bang on. Hearing this story didn’t really phase me because it’s a clear misinterpretation of what they do.

They have an accountability software like xwatch or covenant eyes that tracks everything they do online (limited to machines it’s installed on so any adult could just go buy a new device) and reports any shady URLs to their ‘accountability partner’. Mike is playing that role for his son which, in fundie land, is great parental support. And for reasons unknown to me, his son seems to play that role for him, which is decidedly less common as it elevates a son to an equal position with the father. But this shit happens sometimes, especially in a particularly insular family where it would be damaging for the truth of these behaviors to come out. A good example is how the Duggars handled Josh being a sexual predator before it went public.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's that nickname from?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (6 children)

He gave an interview where he talked about him and his son monitoring each other's porn consumption

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 10 months ago (4 children)

So, he basically did the same thing that McCarthy did? I don't remember if it got brought up before, but does Johnson still have to worry about getting deposed on a whim, or did they not include that this time?

[–] [email protected] 90 points 10 months ago (2 children)

He did exactly what they threw McCarthy out for and Democrats got everything they wanted, Republicans got nothing of what they wanted.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think this could be looking at it from the wrong perspective. To me, Johnson's rise to speaker looks like a calculated effort by Christian Nationalists (aka MAGA) to position a future coup leader and presidential candidate. McCarthy is an unpopular career politician, where Johnson is a younger unkown on the national stage. The Conservative propaganda machine tried to position DeSantis as Trump's successor, but he's proved a total failure.

Calling it now. Johnson will run for president in 2028 and, depending on polling, could be Trumps VP pick. He wouldn't think twice about doing what Pence failed to do on Jan 6.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Trump will be 82 and in jail or dead by 2028.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Stop it, I can only get so erect!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Don't threaten us with a good time!

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

and Democrats got everything they wanted

Except funding for Ukraine and a better timeframe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This deadline is longer than the previous funding bill's deadline and the added attention on the Israel-Hamas conflict has given factions on both sides something to compromise on: No funding for Ukraine in exchange for no funding for Israel. It's a bit weird, but it worked out for Johnson.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I was countering the assertion that Democrats got everything they wanted. They did not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well, it still has to go through the Senate

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's still in place: https://www.axios.com/2023/10/29/johnson-gop-house-speaker-rule

The far righters weren't happy and voted against this. But they said they weren't going to kick him out because of it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

gaetz caught the car last time, he will stay in three yard this time.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It seems that that may have mostly been a guise for how much the Freedom Caucus personally hated Kevin McCarthy more than anything.

You have to remember, these people don't actually have principles or goals.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Principles no, goals yes. Their goal is autocratic power for autocratic power's sake.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I look forward to House GOP members brawling publicly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's basically just WWE, and just as real.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sadly, it's as real as it gets. We've got a bunch of idiots running the country, and there are a lot of voters who like it that way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don't fall for it, they're not as dumb as they look. I equate it to WWE because it's a bunch of huffing, puffing, and grandstanding to keep the attention on them. Meanwhile, they've already planned the outcome.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Deathmatch on the Senate stairs!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The vote was 336 to 95, clearing the two-thirds threshold required for passage. In the end, 209 Democrats and 127 Republicans joined to pass the bill. Ninety-three Republicans opposed it, as did two Democrats. Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the majority leader, told reporters that he wanted the Senate to vote on the bill “as soon as possible.

And the Hard Right is pissed.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yet despite that...

Tuesday’s statement from the House Freedom Caucus included the line: “… we remain committed to working with Speaker Johnson”.

Source

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

They don't have much of a choice. They barely elected Johnson. A vote to boot him is a vote to have no speaker. And ousting McCarthy lost then their best money maker.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Good. Let them keep pushing and pushing. At this point, the only thing that will save this country is Trump et al managing to destroy themselves. We only got Obama because Bush let Wall Street run amok.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

So, whose gonna be the third speaker?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A rotting racoon carcass would be the best bet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Mitch McConnel is already employed over in the senate?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No I said racoon not turtle.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So this is good right? Have the Republicans realized shutdowns are bad?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

No, they didn't realize it yet. That's why so many of them voted against it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The Times seems to have upgraded its paywall, so here's a more accessible source.

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