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I've heard of piped due to the piped-link bot, but I am curious about others.

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[–] skinnerbox 39 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Louis Rossman just released Grayjay! His video about it is here

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

Friendly reminder that Grayjay is only source-available.

FUTO Temporary License (FTL) violates the following open-source principles:

  • Open source licenses must allow free redistribution. FTL allows license suspension and termination at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.
  • Open source licenses must allow source code distribution. FTL allows restrictions to access the code at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.
  • Open source licenses must allow modifications. FTL allows modifications only for non-commercial use, or maybe not even that. FTL dodges the word modifications here, no clue.
  • Open source licenses must explicitly allow distribution of software built from modified source code. FTL forbids distribution of software built from modified source code for commercial use.
  • Open source licenses must not discriminate against persons/groups and fields of endeavor. FTL allows license suspension and termination at any time, without notice, for any or no reason.

The FTL enables the following practices:

  • Copyright holders can change the license terms.
  • Copyright holders can re-license everything.
  • Copyright holders can target specific groups and individuals with discriminatory license terms.
  • Copyright holders can close source everything.
  • Copyright holders can forbid specific groups and individuals from using their work.

My main gripe here is that the video sells a source-available software with severe usage restrictions as open-source. These restrictions may sound reasonable to people outside of the open-source world, especially to people who use similar wording in their own terms of service, but nobody would touch your software with a ten foot pole with a software license like that.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Only on android :/ i thought it was going to be a progressive web app

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I almost switched to iPhone, thankfully this came out to show me why that is a bad idea. I just need to de-gpogle.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Wait, why would this one app currently only being available on Android make switching a bad idea? Seems like a weird thing to base a decision that big on…

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Yow! that looks pretty awesome. I installed it and added the Nebula plugin... wonder if there's a CuriosityStream one as well?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

here

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I use freetube on linux, newpipe on android.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

GrayJay just came out into the testing phase. It not only supportsYouTubee but also Nebula, Odysee, Twitch, PeerTube and a few others with more to come. Works great so far. grayjay.app. Built by Futo, a nonprofit company which Louis Rossmann works for. His video here

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

You'll find a lot of answers in this thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/6385210

(I used Piped (https://piped.video) with LibreTube (https://libretube.dev/))

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (13 children)

GrayJay just launched and it's fucking fantastic.

It combines YouTube and Twitch into one platform in a really intuitive way. Has its own comment system and rating system for videos. No ads obviously. It's a whole fucking thing and it's incredible.

https://grayjay.app/index.html

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (7 children)

and it's not free software. only source available with a license that doesn't allow forking.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

SmartTube is excellent on our NVidia Shield. Not sure what other platforms it works on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Seconding SmartTube on android TV. No ads, can automatically skip all sorts of content in videos (spoken ads, self-promotion, introduction segments, etc. etc. etc.) I dread the day it stops working.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Best overall SmartTube for Android TV and NewPipe with SponsorBlock for Android.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I came across this website thanks to someone sharing it here, so I thought I’d do the same: https://fmhy.pages.dev/storage/#youtube-frontends

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Newpipe for Android. Hands down the best iv used.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

NewPipe SponsorBlock

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Freetube, Individious, Piped, CloudTube, PokeTube, Tubo, Yattee are the main ones I know of. If you want be automatically redirected to alternative youtube frontends installed Lib Redirect.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

YouTube revanced works super well.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I've been enjoying Piped for awhile now; it actually shows me a feed that's exclusively my subscriptions and has SponsorBlock built in.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I use NewPipe for my phone and it's been wonderful

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Can someone explain to me why I want the video proxied vs the video coming directly from YT via a front end? I've used YouTube Vanced in the past and it was awesome when it worked

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Get revanced, it works now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Its for privacy. This way youtube doesnt get your ip and has more difficulty figuring out who you are

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Been using revanced for a while - had no idea there were this many alternatives. I like revanced though, especially with stube on Google tv.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How about alternatives to Youtube?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Most alternatives are pretty great, but they can never have the amount of content and the reach that youtube has. Youtube has a monopoly and they know it. They can do whatever they want, because you can't leave.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes, I love odysee and bit chute for exemple, people just need to go there instead just like the migration from Reddit to Lemmy so it can grow bigger.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm self-hosting Piped and couldn't be happier. Clean, distraction free and, importantly, private. No data mining. Importing your subscriptions from a Google Takeout dump is simple.

LibreTube for Android is my mobile client, and talks to my Piped server without any issues. The only thing missing at this stage is a client for my Chromecast GTVs. For those, I still watch YouTube with SmartTubeNext, which means keeping two sets of subscriptions in sync. A little frustrating, but relatively painless, for the privacy benefits.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I use songtube on android

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Invidious. If you look up invidious instances you can find plenty of them and choose one that’s in your country so it’s nice and fast. Sometimes they take an extra second to load but there are no ads so it’s worth it

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