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[–] [email protected] 112 points 5 days ago (3 children)

“It is amazing to hear you talk about women of color as parroting talking points instead of us looking at basic math,” Rye said. “The one thing AOC has done that you haven’t is win some elections.”

Solid point. Also, the fact that a candidate for the Presidency doesn't even know how many members there are in the House of Representatives shows just how little attention she pays to the basic mechanics of our government.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

As much as I’d love to have a legitimate third party to disappoint me, they’re not going to get anywhere if they can’t win outside of random local elections.

Show me a Green House rep, Senator, or Governor and then we’ll talk about how you’ll inevitably let me down after I vote for you. Until then I’m going to vote for the disappointments who can actually win office.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

they’re not going to get anywhere if they can’t win outside of random local elections.

This point seems to be beyond the comprehension of some people (those who aren't bad faith trolls, anyway). I've had so many conversations with people, both online and in person, where they don't understand that a third party with no offices or political infrastructure cannot win and is just a spoiler party (and in the case of the green party, an obvious joke spoiler party).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Exactly. I get that they can't win everywhere, and that there's actually quite a few of them in office all over, but if they can't put up credible opposition to the Democrats at a multi-state level how the hell are they going to get elected to a national position?

I'm gonna make a deal with the Green Party: If you can get a Senator elected, I'll vote for you for president.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 5 days ago

A speed bump normally doesn't concern itself with the rules of the road; just has to disrupt the flow of traffic in the intended way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

I already didn't think much of her but this has me convinced that she is unserious.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 58 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Putin’s Jizz Stein wants Nato disbanded

The only possible reason that someone would want NATO disbanded is because they are Russian shills. Russian aggression is the reason NATO exists.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

they are Russian shills

Hey, the money is really, really good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I don't think troll farms get paid well, but I'm open to being personally proven wrong with a better offer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

It's not that long ago that NATO was near it's end in fact, https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/3/macron-stands-by-nato-brain-death-comment-in-clash-with-trump

Had Russia waited another decade or two, and it's conceivable that NATO would have been retired.

But no, they had to go and bring it back from it's deathbed: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2023/7/11/offensive-defence-how-putin-saved-nato https://warroom.armywarcollege.edu/articles/ukraine-revived-nato/

Talk about unintended consequences.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago

Piers Morgan asked her about this and she just sounds like an idiot. She apparently came to talk to Putin and got snubbed entirely.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe she was schooled, but I bet she learned nothing.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago

Oh, she’s not an idiot. She didn’t need to learn anything. She knows what she’s doing. It’s intentional.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

I find Stein a bit grating, but I always finds greens hard to pin down politically. I'd much rather this air time have gone to someone like Claudia de la Cruz with something interesting to say and some principles to back it up