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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even if you often try to make that person feel understood and empowered to express their views, everyone's needs are different. For example, if they tend to feel inadequate or are self-conscious about their achievements/intelligence/etc., you may need to go the extra mile here.

Try to identify all the positive and negative interactions with them (i.e., those in which they get the impression that they are right versus those in which they don't) and make sure that positive ones greatly outnumber negative ones. If you need, you can try to acknowledge more situations wherein their contribution to a conversation deserves praise, or even simply not point out their mistakes if the question at hand is not critical for you (easiest imo).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When a person says this, sometimes even if they do it in a positive tone, it's usually a way to verbalize more concrete concerns that you should address. For example, they might feel that you are always dismissing their opinions, that you don't listen to them in general, or they would simply like to get support when they express their views in a group so they get some recognition. In any case, they feel like you can do something to help but may not feel comfortable to express it or may not have fully identified it. If that person is important to you, you should be able to see what they want and take action.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hope you're good now. Never had trouble with them, but did with other stuff, so I'm much more careful now. Coffee is tasty too :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use the same method that used to work for me at university: gulping down the whole thing quickly and then looking for things I might not have understood. With enough coffee/stims, the second part is not necessary lol.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sorry, stupid mistake. "I see it’s what you guys defend" refers to "my stance", not "even socialists". I'm so stupid that I had to ask a friend (with better English) to understand it. I've edited the original comment to reflect this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Thank you. I've already requested a Lemmygrad account! Been lurking here for some time, but with the influx of new users I get insulted a lot more lol. So time to find a new home with you guys.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Oh, thanks for explaining, my bad. I've never been good with language... My intention was to complain that I see left-leaning people defending that stuff. To be clear, I do NOT believe that. I'm pretty disconnected from this community though and wanted to hear some related points of view. Maybe another time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Brilliant. That makes a lot of sense, especially the more concrete the goals are. I wish it were easier to achieve, maybe the theoretical frameworks for this will be a reality in a few decades... Your implementation at least seems more plausible.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

You don't think a US-dominated unipolar world is a threat to socialism worldwide and must fall? And why don't you think that?

Edit 2: sorry, I realize my mistake. "I see it’s what you guys defend too" would have been a better wording, otherwise I imply that you are among the "even socialists" mentioned at the start.

Edit 1: Nvm I've been called a tankie on another instance, now this. Maybe I'm acting weird, that's all, I'll take good care of my health for a few days and come back. It would help me if you explained yourselves, but I understand if you don't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Well, I see lots of people (even socialists) that think that the path taken by the ship is good, it just needs socialism or whatever. Of course, my stance is that this path doesn't lead to socialism and a violent change of world order is necessary before it can achieved. Which might be true or false, but I see it's what you guys defend (edit: to clarify, you guys defend the same position as me, "my stance", not the first one I mentioned, "I see lots of people").

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay, my answer is pretty removed, but I'd say I'd like a system where decisions are made by submitting automated proofs of their optimality, either absolute or over all submitted proposals in a defined time frame. The conditions of optimality would be pre-defined in a Constitution, and non-provable facts would be accepted or rejected via a decentralized voting system that would keep multiple diff chains and penalize e.g. voting for facts that are later proven false via a submitted proof. The proof system would hold all powers, but would be able to delegate decisions to entities under proven rules, which would come faster but possibly be overriden.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you use my snippet, I want your game. If you don't agree, then you can't use my snippet. The purpose of the GPL is simply to prevent people who don't share from benefitting from people who do, which I think is pretty fair.

 
 

First subreddit over 10M to go private. The message shown when trying to enter the sub is a quote from spez:

I think the problem Digg had is that it was a company that was built to be a company, and you could feel it in the product. The way you could criticize Reddit is that we weren't a company – we were all heart and no head for a long time. So I think it'd be really hard for me and for the team to kill Reddit in that way. Steve Huffman, CEO of Reddit, April 2023

 

ChatGPT will gobble up every symbolic manipulation task I give to it. At worst, sometimes I have to check its output and point out anything weird, then it'll correct it.

I'm writing pages over pages of scary differential equations and the damn thing is saving me lots of time on it. And everything checks out! I wonder about GPT 4, since it is supposed to give correct answers without help as often as the average calculus student...

 
 

The comments are pretty interesting...

 

I just can't find the words to describe how happy I was to receive so much feedback and understanding on your part, this community is truly wonderful <3

I'll work on some of your (legal) ideas in my spare time, which is not much but I work fast! So far I've designed a generalized edit distance function with some pretty cool properties that would make it useful for running an organization under non-friendly conditions:

$ cat message1.txt
Liberal anti-fascism is a reactionary idea. Anti-fascism is not practical without being anti-capitalist.

$ cat message2.txt
The anti-fascism of liberals is not a progressive idea. It is impractical with no anti-capitalism.

$ cat leak.txt
Liberals' anti-fascism is not useful without anti-capitalism, not a progressive idea.

$ ./trace.py leak.txt message*.txt
Delta | File name
----------------------
   19 | message1.txt
    8 | message2.txt

Predicted origin of 'leak.txt' is 'message2.txt'.

So far it works with any sufficiently long text I've thrown at it. Make two versions of any text, rewrite any of the two into a third file, and the algorithm will trace its origin. Also the math is pretty elegant!

For obvious reasons I won't be publishing any of it any time soon :) Maybe the RTC will advise me on what to do. Or maybe I'll just hoard a bunch of software like this. Anyway, thanks, I'll keep at it.

 

Disclaimer: bipolar rant.

tl;dr: I'm frustrated that no one is working on clever schemes like this where I could help. All the weaponized math is for capitalist crypto-bros, drug dealers and think tanks, what an unfair world...


Honestly, seeing the real economic and social implications of fields like game theory, cryptography etc. makes one wonder if it could be possible to put these to revolutionary use. I know about the Revolutionary Technical Committee and might get in contact with them, but I'm not sure if they'll know of some concrete project that would help, something like a bunch of decentralized software, smart contracts, mathematical proofs... I can write all of these, but what for?

For example, this comment of mine proposes an economic scheme that would require all of the above to coordinate, secure and trust, to optimize functioning and minimize necessary involvement. But I'm sure there are other (better?) ways to use math and tech directly for revolution. Any revolutionary ideas where the questions arise of "why should I trust...?", "how can we ensure...?", "how to optimize...?" can theoretically benefit from them.

Even my local revolutionary organization mentioned a problem that could be solved using a certain crypto scheme, namely securely and anonymously swapping vehicles between owners, to be presented to the general population but actually meant to avoid identification while reducing transportation costs.

 

My region is home to the world's largest worker cooperative, Mondragon Corporation. Do you think worker cooperatives are useful to us? Why aren't they more widespread? Could their growth be facilitated by new technologies like the Internet or Blockchain?

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Basically, the assumption is that PPP-adjusted GDP per capita (B) is a reliable measure of the economic activity in a country, while its ability to satisfy the needs of its population is better quantified by the PPP-adjusted median wealth per adult (D).

Wikipedia provides B, as well as unadjusted GDP per capita (A) and unadjusted median wealth per adult ( C), so it's a reasonable assumption that D = BC/A. Since B represents production, C/A is a coefficient indicating how well this production translates to better quality of life.

So, my question is, for an arbitrary D, how much do each of both factors contribute to it? We need to find x so (Bx)(Cx/A) = BCx²/A = 1, so, since 1 = D/D = BC/AD, we find that x = 1/sqrt(D).

Then the normalized production factor is Bx = B/sqrt(D) = B/sqrt(BC/A) = sqrt(AB/C). Since this factor follows a logarithmic distribution, is only makes sense to take the logarithm, for p = log10(sqrt(AB/C)) = 2log10(AB/C). I just omitted the constant factor for simplicity.

It's far from perfect, as it tends to put together countries with lower GDP per capita and countries with fairer distribution, since both rely less on a high production.

 

In a hypothetical future, AI has managed to replace humans in all jobs, so people are not required to manufacture products and services. Here's a way to ensure that everyone gets those products and services despite not being hired by anyone.

  1. Create a basic income system. This would provide everyone with a basic income to cover their essential needs and give them access to the goods and services the AI produces.

  2. Expand public services. Governments could provide free or discounted goods and services to citizens, such as healthcare, transportation, education, and housing. This would ensure everyone has access to essential goods and services.

  3. Invest in a sharing economy. Governments could invest in a sharing economy, allowing citizens to rent or share products and services. This would allow people to access goods and services without having to purchase them.

  4. Tax the AI companies. Governments could tax AI companies on their profits and use the funds to support citizens. This would ensure that citizens receive the goods and services that the AI produces without having to purchase them.


In a hypothetical future, AI has managed to replace humans in all jobs, so people are not required to manufacture products and services. To ensure people keep having access to those products and services, governments put taxes on the companies that manufacture them and use those taxes to implement a basic income system, extensive public services and a sharing economy.

In this situation, if taxes are made very high, companies may not be willing to manufacture products and services as the cost of doing so may be too great. This could lead to a scarcity of products and services, increasing their cost and putting them out of reach of people who would otherwise be able to afford them.

To prevent this, governments would need to adjust the tax rate to keep the cost of production low enough to keep products and services affordable. Governments could also use other methods to support the companies making them, such as offering subsidies or providing access to resources like labour and materials at lower costs. Additionally, governments could promote the sharing economy and ensure that it is managed in a way that is fair and equitable for all involved. This would help ensure that people have access to affordable products and services.


In a hypothetical future, AI has managed to replace humans in all jobs, so people are not required to manufacture products and services. To ensure people keep having access to those products and services, governments put taxes on the companies that manufacture them and use those taxes to implement a basic income system, extensive public services and a sharing economy.

Governments would like to increase taxes to provide more goods to people, but private companies are not willing to manufacture under high taxes. There's, however, a way to keep manufacturing goods while providing most of them to people.

To do this, governments can set up autonomous production facilities, where all the production is done by robots and AI. This can be done by building infrastructure such as factories and warehouses, buying the necessary equipment, and setting up AI programs to manage the production. This would allow companies to manufacture goods without having to pay taxes, as the facility is owned and operated by the government.

The products manufactured in these facilities can be distributed for free or for a discounted rate in a public distribution system. This would not only provide basic goods and services to people, but also stimulate the economy. People would have access to these goods and services and be able to purchase them for cheaper prices, which would increase consumption and help create jobs in other areas such as services and entertainment.

In addition, governments can also set up a sharing economy, where people can share their resources such as cars and homes. This would help reduce costs and increase access to goods and services.

Overall, this system would allow governments to provide basic goods and services to people while also stimulating the economy, creating jobs in other areas, and reducing costs.


An AI has determined that, in a future with full automation of all jobs, where no one would be hired in a job, governments should set up their own fully automated facilities to manufacture goods and provide them for free, since people wouldn't be able to afford products and services offered by private companies. Research would be performed by AI, as well as all other jobs. Since no one can buy their products, private companies would have no incentive to produce them.

In this type of future, governments would need to be very careful in how they set up these facilities to make sure that the goods and services provided are of high quality and meet the needs of the population. Governments should also ensure that the production of these goods is sustainable and does not harm the environment. Additionally, governments would need to provide some form of basic income to the population to make sure that people can still afford to pay for basic necessities. Finally, governments should look into creating a new form of currency to replace the need for money in this new system.


An AI has determined that, in a future with full automation of all jobs, where no one would be hired in a job, governments should set up their own fully automated manufacture and research facilities to manufacture goods and provide them for free, since people wouldn't be able to afford products and services offered by private companies, which would stop producing. Money would be replaced by a new form of property exchange.

This system, where the government manages all manufacturing for its people, and money does not exist, could be summarized in a single word: socialism. With socialism, the government would own and control all of the means of production and distribute goods and services to its citizens for free. This could be a potential solution for a future with full automation of all jobs, since it would guarantee that everyone has access to basic needs such as food, shelter, and healthcare. It would also ensure that no one is left behind due to their financial status. Money would be replaced by a system of bartering, where goods and services would be exchanged directly between individuals.


Two AIs are presented with the problem to design a system that provides for everyone despite all jobs being automated and performed by AI.

The first AI, after some consideration, proposes socialism as a solution. Here, the goverment would set up its own automated manufacture and research facilities, makes goods and services available to everyone for free, and traditional currency is abolished.

The second AI, which opposes socialism, tries to propose a different system that would also keep everyone happy despite full automation and an absence of jobs. It suggests that the government instead should create a universal basic income system, where every citizen of the country receives a certain amount of money each month, regardless of whether they have a job or not. This money could be used to purchase goods and services, which would be produced by the automated factories, incentivizing the factories to continue to operate, and giving citizens a steady income.


In the future, every job will be automated and no work will be performed by people. To ensure everyone gets products and services despite not being able to work, there are two proposals.

In the first proposal, the government would set up automated production facilities to manufacture goods that would be distributed to people for free.

In the second proposal, private companies would keep manufacturing goods, but taxes would be placed on them and used to buy products that would be distributed to the rest of the population.

Here's an in-depth comparison of both proposals.

The first proposal would be more efficient, as automated production facilities are more efficient than manual labor. It would also be more equitable, as everyone would receive the same products and services regardless of their socio-economic status. However, it would be costly to set up and maintain these automated production facilities.

The second proposal would be more cost-effective, as private companies already exist and would just need to be taxed in order to fund the distribution of goods. It would also be less equitable, as wealthier people would be able to afford more expensive, higher-quality goods than those who are less well-off.

Ultimately, how to handle the automation of jobs will depend on the resources available in a given economy and the preferences of the people in power. No matter which proposal is chosen, it is important to ensure that everyone is able to access products and services in a fair and equitable way.


An AI and a human are comparing two ways to organize society in the future. According to them, the first proposal is more efficient and equitable, but difficult to set up initially, while the second roposal is less efficient and equitable but would be easy to set up with little to no change in policy.

Upon consideration, they decided that any lawmaker should choose to implement the first proposal, despite the difficulty of setting it up. They argued that the initial hardship was worth it for the long-term benefits in efficiency and equity, and that the second proposal should only be used as a temporary solution until the first proposal could be implemented.

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