Lol why are there so many trolls trying to shit on Bernie.
this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2024
-17 points (25.7% liked)
politics
18883 readers
4379 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Genuine question/ thought:
Is it to deliberately sow doubt in the Democratic Party and get Trump elected by pushing anti-electoralist talking points and discouraging progressives/ leftists from voting for Harris because she and her colleagues don't entirely live up to an arbitrary representation of being a progressive?
Yep
And every so often one of them will say “Democrat voters” or use non-American number styles or some other similar little inconsistency, and then pretend not to know what you’re talking about if you ask questions about it
Are you going to call Bernie a Democrat lap dog too?
Oh look, it’s a bunch of crap
Eventually the administration did pass climate-investment-related provisions of BBB in scaled-down form in the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), mostly in the form of tax credits for private investment and eco-friendly consumer choices.
That’s one hell of a way to gloss over and minimize more than a trillion dollars of corporate-tax-increase money getting spent on climate change (and also working class jobs in addition)
But those investments fall far short of what climate experts say is required to rapidly decarbonize
This part is true 😢. We need 10 times more and we needed it 20 years ago. On the other hand, Biden started working on it instantly and managed to get something passed which is almost 10 times more than any other US president has done.
and even on optimistic estimates, the bill will produce only a 6 to 10 percent reduction in emissions relative to a non-IRA scenario.
6 to 10 percentage points, not 6 to 10 percent. Measuring percent is a little weird but you could say the reduction in emissions compared with 2005 levels is about 33% more than it was pre IRA. We save about 500 million tons of CO2 per year with the IRA, 10% of our total 2005 emissions. (I also don’t know of any optimistic scenario that has the impact as small as 6 percentage points, let alone 6 percent)
Perhaps most important, for all the celebration of the Biden administration’s progressivism by Sanders, Biden’s policies have not meaningfully raised living standards for many working Americans
This is an incredibly artful construction. Not having COVID happen at all would not have meaningfully changed living or dying standards of many alive Americans. There are many Palestinians who have not been killed by the war in Gaza. See how that works?
Hey ozma pop quiz - what happened to working class wages (inflation adjusted) between 2019 and 2024? I feel like we’ve talked enough about it that you should know the numbers. We could say that “working class” means 10th percentile or 20th or really any percentile you want to pick.
Jacobin - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)
Information for Jacobin:
MBFC: Left - Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: High - United States of America
Wikipedia about this source
Media Bias Fact Check | bot supportSearch topics on Ground.News
https://jacobin.com/2024/08/bernie-sanders-dnc-speech
Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: High
Oh my FUCKING GOD