this post was submitted on 05 Sep 2023
40 points (100.0% liked)

the_dunk_tank

15698 readers
1 users here now

It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

Rule 1: All posts must include links to the subject matter, and no identifying information should be redacted.

Rule 2: If your source is a reactionary website, please use archive.is instead of linking directly.

Rule 3: No sectarianism.

Rule 4: TERF/SWERFs Not Welcome

Rule 5: No ableism of any kind (that includes stuff like libt*rd)

Rule 6: Do not post fellow hexbears.

Rule 7: Do not individually target other instances' admins or moderators.

Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views. Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this.

Rule 9: if you post ironic rage bait im going to make a personal visit to your house to make sure you never make this mistake again

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
all 10 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's always the same "criticism" Marx responds to on literally page four of Capital

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago

Reddit intellectuals debunk Marx by thinking up abstract scenarios and name-dropping well-known non-Marxist economists in famously perfect capitalist economies.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago

“LTV has already been debunked, it’s obvious to everyone that commodities simply build themselves!”

“Marx never considered how technology increases productivity.” (Productive forces)

“Marx never considered how the market alters the price of commodities.” (Exchange versus use value)

“So do you stupid tankies think that if workers do something totally useless (digging holes and then refilling them), that something is still valuable?” (Socially necessary labor time)

It’s kind of an oxymoron I guess but “to understand Marxism is to be a Marxist.” None of these critics on reddit-logo have read a word of Marx.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

It basically comes down to the skill of the individual worker and the time it takes them to complete a task.

Jfc, no

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For a marxist, having half the population digging holes, and another half filling them, is a value creating endeavour no different than buiding a bridge, as long as the labour is approximately equal.

I wish I could be that confidently wrong.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

literally describing bourgeois economist 'gdp'

it's always projection ffs

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Find me that Marxist please

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

I can't. I can't bring myself to visit the link. I know my brain won't recover.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Complete Capital is (in my version) 7 thick books, of which at least half is talking explicitly about what value is, history of that concept etc.