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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (11 children)

That's great news. But I read in the past that the majority of these clean energy installations are in the middle of the country where the land is dirt cheap and almost no one is living. Meaning that a lot of this energy is simply lost at the energy grid until it reaches actual users. Nevertheless this is still a big win, because of all the innovation it brought to the PV manufacturing process.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Gansu, the poorest province in China, a province where "almost no one is living." Qinghai, Xinjiang... Same story. Together, they have almost 60 million people. Many of them are minorities with historically poor job prospects due to their distance from economic centers.

By building energy installations in the middle of the country, they're providing jobs to a group that's been left behind by the rapid industrialization of the country's East. Providing them with a surplus of electricity. Driving investment in the region. Moreover, this group of people is more than the population of New York and Texas... Combined.

How about you take your racism and your classism and shove it up your ass?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hold off with your accusations and insults, I have never said anything like this, so don't put words in my mouth.

This is actually a problem for big countries with irregular population density, where it is the cheapest to build them, and as I said in my original post, I believe it is a big achievement.

And for the record I am not American.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

60 million people is almost no one?

Geez it's like you people want poor people to stay poor. There's more than enough capacity for solar deployments in the nations East - it's explicit policy that's put deployments further West. Beijing is happy to build some UHV lines if it means that prosperity can be driven into the West - it's the same argument as for the HSR line to Lanzhou and then to Urumqi. It's the same argument as for the HSR line to Hohhot and the HrSR from Chengdu to Lhasa. Beijing knows that these infrastructure projects are inefficient, but Beijing is more concerned with equity of growth than the growth itself - they'd rather see 10% growth in the West and 3% growth in the East for 5% growth nationally than 6% growth nationally, but coming entirely from already established tier 1 population centers.

It's not only mutual prosperity, but also an effort to reduce internal migration towards tier 1 cities.

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