veganpizza69

There's a lot more to read about it than Wikipedia. The animal sourcing is unreliable too, those farm animals don't make it, they get it from being outside and eating from the soil and drinking from various natural water sources. That doesn't apply to most animal-based food products as those come from factory farms, which is why they supplement, usually as multivitamins. Those who aren't eating a plant-based diet are essentially consuming second-hand supplements, along with second-hand amino-acids, second-hand lipids, second-hand calories. And B12 deficiency is pretty big in many human populations, especially among older adults. Everyone should be supplementing, really. You should stop making it sound like it's difficult or disgusting, it isn't.

Yes. Just avoid voting for yourself, it's rude.

I'm certainly trying to deprecate this connection to Lemmy.world.

Alexa, play "Tooth and Claw" by Jeremy Soule from the Skyrim soundtrack

Rooki is a science denier - confirmed.

Unfortunately, running or managing a Lemmy instance doesn't come with requirements to read science.

It's a big topic and it wasn't snark. You should learn to ask better questions and that's a difficult thing to do.

it is uncontroversial that dogs and cats are both members of the carnivora order

Well, if they're in an order, I guess that determines everything about them.

You should also go out and force all pandas to switch to hunting, because they're also in the Carnivora order.

https://nutritionfacts.org/?s=uric%20acid

But adopting street animals from regions where they are regularly abused and/or killed and with that helping to finance organizations who orchestrate castration programs in those places is not really “burgeois” or a way to “keep them an emotional service slave”.

It was a broad message. Some of it is for the vets who are essentially working for maintaining the pet industry and its market of pet ownership.

Stuffing cats full of vegan food that slowly kills them is as bad as feeding dogs raw animal carcasses because some shithead on the internet told you that this is the “natural” way.

Firstly, we're comparing "street food" to plant-based pet food. Not "ideal ambrosia for immortality food" to plant-based pet food. That's the Nirvana fallacy I was referring to, your entire paradigm is wrong.

Secondly, everyone is mortal. Everyone. You too. Me too. If your plan is to create immortal animals, us included, your entire paradigm is completely wrong.

Anyone promoting paleo diets for cats or similar ideas is starting out with bad faith and needs to be dismissed. And for dogs too. If your argument is based on naturalistic fallacies or even traditionalistic fallacies, you should delete your account.

As vegans here should already know, just as a reminder of priorities:

1. The pet sector must die, pet ownership isn't vegan, pet breeders are the enemies;

2. We're not doing "optimal nutrition", sorry. That biohacking shit to create immortal adopted pets isn't going to work out. It's hardly even clear for humans what the optimal diet is, and they pretend that they know what it is for cats??? These fools don't even comprehend that evolution doesn't give a shit about longevity. It's a standard imposed by the marketing agencies of pet foods who want to milk pet owner feelings to have their pets die after they do. It's a false standard that is great for advertising, but otherwise functions as a Nirvana fallacy machine.

3. This is just a rephrase, but pet ownership is bourgeois. Well, aristocratic, then bourgeois. Detach. This isn't about you, you don't get to annex a sentient being just to keep them as an emotional service slave or as a status symbol. This one is especially for Americans where pets live better than poor people.

Damn, now I need to manually migrate :/

Yep. When I say fuck cars, I mean fuck car infrastructure too.