TheTechnician27

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 16 hours ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

No, it's an edited shitpost of the neo-Nazi's comic. He did not coin the term.

 

I'll start: some years ago, a medical professional recommended I take a daily omega-3 supplement. What I got naturally was fish oil capsules, and these of course had the nutrients I needed. So problem solved. But not only did these make me queasy, they also (I'm so sorry for this imagery for those who've never had these) gave "fish burps". Basically, after ingesting them, they can (and for me consistently did) give you these nasty, tic-like burps that taste like you let a fish decay in a bucket for three days and drank that water.

This goes on for a while until the I realize that they sell "burpless" fish oil. The day was saved, and I went home with a new lease on life. Well, until I tried it and I realized that it's not so much "burp-less" as it is "burp-lite". It just reduced the severity of the symptoms but meant I still felt slightly sick and could still have those nauseating burps. I eventually gave up on it because even just one stray burp felt that gross.

Later on, I went vegetarian (I'm now vegan), and although at that point I had plenty of ALA in my diet, I decided to look back into an omega-3 supplement as a precaution since my diet had shifted so dramatically. Of course fish was out of the question, so I looked into alternatives and landed on flaxseed oil capsules. These were more expensive per capsule, but I felt that they made up for it by having 1.6x the omega-3 per capsule. Taking one for the first time, I felt 100% normal. No upset stomach, no burps, no weird fish taste (in fact, if you crack open the capsule, the oil is quite bland). It worked flawlessly. At that time I didn't avoid the gelatin in the capsule as I would now, but you can find flaxseed oil in plant-based capsules for a slightly higher price from suppliers like Deva.

TL;DR: flaxseed oil supplements omega-3 without nasty side effects like fish oil capsules. It just works, and I wish I'd known about it so much sooner.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

Hi there. Things escalated really out of control due to a rogue mod, but the situation has since been resolved, and things should be back to normal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

Private communities don't exist; you can only create an instance and defederate from everyone else. VeganTheoryClub is an instance which defederated from Lemmy.World, for example.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

Incidentally, vegan Spam does exist both in the official Spam brand and in another brand called unMeat. As someone who really doesn't like Spam, though, I'm unqualified to judge it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

Sorry, this whole thing was a guerilla marketing campaign for legumes all along.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

Hey, though, you're the first person in this thread to actually mention by name a vegan Nutella alternative that doesn't use palm oil, so you win first prize. 🏆🥳

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

the V-word is just off-putting to quite a few omnivores.

The discussion was about the ingredients being too exotic, not the labeling, but regarding the labeling, I don't understand how a vegan product marketed toward vegans by indicating it's vegan is a bad decision. Nocciolata puts up the label "vegan" too (it's also palm oil-free, which is cool). Again, I'm sure Ferrero understands what their target audience is for this and have accounted for the extremely-close-minded-omni demographic.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

This entire comment confuses me.

Here in Germany, chickpea is relatively exotic

I can't speak to Germany, but at least where I am, chickpeas really aren't exotic, even to people who really don't know much of anything about other cultures. (Also, this won't be in the German market yet; closest is the Belgian one.)

I've never seen rice syrup as an ingredient in anything that wasn't specifically made for vegans.

I've never heard of this stereotype of rice syrup being especially prevalent in vegan products. I see rice syrup as a bit exotic, but not in a way that anyone who isn't vegan but would be willing to buy vegan Nutella would think "well that's just too out there for me. Syrup? Gross."

It feels like they created a product specifically for the vegan market

That does seem to be the point of them removing dairy, yes.

which means they're alienating parts of the non-vegan market

?_? How would this be alienating to someone who's not vegan would otherwise try it as a vegan alternative? Like say what you want about enormous corporations like Ferrero, but I'm at least reasonably confident they did some market testing for this. The problem this comment is addressing feels extremely manufactured. If it doesn't appeal to you, that's one thing, but it feels like you're overgeneralizing your own niche experience onto everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Wait, was there ever any doubt that Nutella is diabetes and CVD in a jar?

Edit: Apparently Ferrero marketed it as healthy if a comment below is to be believed. What the fuuuuuuck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah, she made a really deep cut.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (5 children)

As someone out-of-the-loop here, do tell. I was hoping they might be out there, and I might give them a shot if they're vegan.

Edit: found one thanks to JubilantJaguar below.

 

As noted in the article, Nutella is made with palm oil, whose farming often results in habitat loss for animals such the Bornean orangutan, which is critically endangered. Ferrero claims they have a chain for palm oil such that it doesn't come from devastating monoculture plantations, but whether that's enough or even if it's true at all isn't my call to make for you. I don't personally take palm oil as part of my diet as I see it as something I can practicably cut out to reduce harm, but whether this is vegan or just plant-based is something you'll have to decide.

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Recent happenings (lemmy.world)
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Hi, everyone. A lot has happened here over the last couple days, and I'll try to explain both what has been happening and what I'm doing to hopefully fix some of the damage that's been done. Hopefully these actions can restore even a fraction of the goodwill that we previously had with the wider Lemmy community.

What's happened

Beaver was recently reinstated as a moderator after finding herself at the center of the recent controversy where Lemmy administrator Rooki unjustly and unilaterally interfered with /c/vegan over a discussion surrounding cat food. I was made a moderator after that same controversy when naeva resigned and went to VeganTheoryClub, an instance defederated from Lemmy.World which is designed to be a haven for discussion of vegan food, activism, art, etc. Things were generally cooling down from that over the last week.

A couple days ago, Beaver began posting to /c/vegan with remarkable frequency (~15 posts/day). Not long after, /u/ccunning contacted me asking about why they had been banned for Rule 5, which is our rule against bad-faith arguments against veganism. ccunning is a member of this community, they might even be vegan, and I've never seen them to be anything but mild-mannered and supportive of veganism here. Because I could find no violation, I assumed it was an accident and unbanned them. Very shortly thereafter, ccunning informed me that they had been banned again, and Beaver messaged me in private stating that ccunning had been banned for downvoting vegan comments but encouraging me not to mention that fact publicly. A post on /c/unpopularopinion soon made it apparent that many people were being banned here for this same reason, and taking a look at the mod log, I saw dozens of bans by Beaver whose only stated reason was "Rule 5".

Beaver continued posting and continued banning, and I messaged them asking if the /c/vegan moderators could have a team-wide discussion and vote concerning this interpretation of Rule 5. I made it clear to them that I felt uncomfortable with their behavior and felt it was doing harm to the community. Beaver ignored this request and simply responded to something else I'd said. 12 hours ago, they stickied a post to the top of /c/vegan daring the admins to interfere, a reference to the previous incident involving Rooki.

What's being done

  • Beaver has been removed as a moderator for the community by me with no interference whatsoever from any of the Lemmy.World administrators. I believe her rash, unilateral actions over the last couple of days have done immense damage to the community under the (I believe misguided) pretense that it's effective and disruptive activism. Based on the actions previously summarized, I feel strongly that she cannot presently be trusted to moderate cooperatively, to competently assess what's best for the community, or to be transparent to our users. Although seemingly unlikely at this point, Beaver is encouraged to stay here as a welcome member of the community.
  • Anyone who was banned for downvoting will be unbanned effective immediately. This was completely out of line, and to my understanding, the moderation team was not consulted about this rogue interpretation of Rule 5. Because I don't think you can tie specific comments to a ban, this will be something that could happen over a period of hours while I try to pin down the actual justification for each ban, and anyone currently banned is encouraged to appeal. Rule 5 is still in effect as it has always been, so please continue to participate in good faith.
  • Individual users will temporarily be limited to creating a certain number of posts per day. I'll have to discuss with the rest of the moderation team if they would like this long-term and if so, what a reasonable limit is, but I think this needs to be done at least right now to cool things off. Beaver's extremely frequent posts have completely drowned out posts made by other users and artificially inflated the activity of this community. The two posts stickied by Beaver will be unstickied, but none of her existing posts will be removed.

I was made a moderator here extremely recently, and so I didn't feel comfortable intervening because I felt I'd be overstepping and betraying trust I'd been given. However, I see widespread distrust of Beaver as a moderator even among vegans (myself included) and feel that this is an emergency that I need to put a stop to.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/28399554

A judge in the Brazilian state of Rondonia has found two beef slaughterhouses guilty of buying cattle from a protected area of former rainforest in the Amazon and ordered them, along with three cattle ranchers, to pay a total of $764,000 for causing environmental damage, according to the decision issued Wednesday. Cattle raising drives Amazon deforestation. The companies Distriboi and Frigon and the ranchers may appeal.

It is the first decision in several dozen lawsuits seeking millions of dollars in environmental damages from the slaughterhouses for allegedly trading in cattle raised illegally in a protected area known as Jaci-Parana, which was rainforest but is now mostly converted to pasture.

Four slaughterhouses are among the many parties charged, including JBS SA, which bills itself as the world’s largest protein producer. The court has not decided on the cases involving JBS.

 
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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Hi, everybody! I've recently taken up a moderation position here after naeva moved to vegantheoryclub.org (it's a great all-in-one instance for veganism, and you should check it out!), so logically the first thing I should do is propose an idea with a high moderation burden.

NOTE: this current post is not a trial run of this idea; it is a request for comment to see if this idea should be done at all. Non-vegans are absolutely welcome and encouraged to chime in because this idea is being proposed largely to benefit them, but ultimately, the opinions of vegans will be weighed more heavily simply because this is a community built by vegans for vegans, and if vegans don't want it, then it isn't fair to them to impose it.

The idea is that each week, we'd have a stickied post where anyone – non-vegans and vegans – can ask vegans politely and in good faith about their thoughts on and experiences with veganism. (Questions by vegans are of course still welcome outside of this stickied post, but they're entirely welcome in here too.) Critically, this would not be a debate; it would be a Q&A format. Essentially: "Non-vegans, please don't try to argue with the vegans, and per the format, please don't attempt to answer questions if you aren't vegan. Vegans, please just politely inform a moderator if you see argumentation instead of perpetuating the argument."

This would hopefully 1) provide a healthy medium for non-vegans to ask about veganism and 2) centralize that discussion so that it's not spread out across a community that's supposed to be a space for vegans to connect to their peers.

Examples of good questions:

  • "What made you decide to be vegan? If you were raised vegan, why have you stayed vegan?"
  • "I'm looking into an alternative for [animal product]; any advice?"
  • "My significant other is vegan, but I'm not; what are some meals that I can cook when they come over?"
  • "I'm trying to cut meat out of my diet, but I'm finding it difficult to stick to it because of [budget/peer pressure/nutrition/etc.]. Can anyone tell me what they did when they had this problem?"
  • "I'm struggling to understand why vegans think that eggs from my friend's backyard are unethical; they treat the chickens really well, so what's the problem?"
  • "I'm a new vegan. Are there any tips or tricks you wished you knew earlier?"
  • "What is dating like as a vegan?"
  • "I've been a vegan for a while now, and I want to get involved with activism. Does anyone know a good place to get started?"
  • "Vegans who used to be anti-vegan, what changed your mind?"
  • Asking for clarification on a point that a vegan has made in response to your or someone else's initial question.

Examples of bad questions:

  • Setting up a convoluted hypothetical scenario to own the vegans ("My great uncle owns an ethical dairy farm on a desert island. If I were to accidentally fall into a trolley switch and roadkill one of the cows, why would it be unethical to drink its milk so it doesn't go to waste?")
  • Just stating an opinion on veganism without actually asking a question or technically asking a question but in a way that's clearly JAQing off.
  • "Why are so many vegans [very obviously pejorative and overgeneralized statement]?"
  • "I have [rare/serious disorder affected by my diet]; how can I still be vegan?" (this is definitely a good-faith question, but the answer here should be "consult a medical professional".)
  • Sealioning.
  • Questions very obviously not related to veganism.

Since per-community flairs aren't a thing on Lemmy, all we can really ask you to do is use one of the four tags below before your comment so that it's easy to identify where you're coming from.

[VG] for vegan, [PBD] for plant-based dieter, [VT] for vegetarian, and [NVV] for non-vegan/vegetarian. These labels are defined as follows:

  • A vegan is somebody who fits the definition from the Vegan Society quoted in the sidebar.
  • A plant-based dieter is one who is a strict vegetarian, i.e. one who does not eat meat and also does not eat animal products. However, they consume animal products outside of their diet.
  • A vegetarian is somebody who does not consume meat but nonetheless consumes animal products such as dairy and eggs.
  • A non-vegan/vegetarian is somebody who does not fit any of these definitions. This includes pescetarians and self-identified "flexitarians".

This idea would be subject to change or discontinuation at any time per the wishes of the community or if the moderation team sees it becoming too much of a burden, but hopefully it can make the community just a bit better. 🙂

 

Image credit is Kitten_of_fire on Reddit.

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