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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No real changes here, next date to watch is Friday, 8/30:

If you're trying to keep track of where we're at in the Trump prosecutions:

Updated 08/27/2024

Washington, D.C.
4 federal felonies
January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest  <- You Are Here
Trial - The trial, originally scheduled for March 4th, had been placed on hold pending the Supreme Court ruling on Presidential Immunity.

The Supreme Court ruled that the President does enjoy limited immunity for "official acts", it now returns to lower court to determine what, if any, of his acts leading up to 1/6 were "official".

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/01/politics/supreme-court-donald-trump-immunity/index.html

On 8/27, a new federal grand jury re-indicted Trump on all four counts in a hearing this time excluding evidence barred by the Supreme Court.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-indicted-federal-election-interference-case-supreme-court-immuni-rcna168503

Previously, Jack Smith had asked for a delay until 8/30 to determine a path forward, it would seem this new indictment is the path.
Conviction
Sentencing

New York
34 state felonies
Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest
Trial
Conviction <- You Are Here Guilty, all 34 counts.
Sentencing - Originally scheduled for July 11, 2024, now delayed until September 18th following the Supreme Court's ruling on Presidential immunity.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/trump-sentencing-date-delay-proposal/index.html

Georgia
10 state felonies
Election Interference
As of 3/13/24 - Judge McAfee cleared 6 charges, 3 against Trump, saying they were too generic to be enforced.
As of 3/15/24 - The case may proceed, but either Fulton County DA, Fani Willis and her office or Special Prosecutor Nathan Wade must remove themselves due to the appearance of impropriety.
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
All 19 defendants have surrendered. n Trial - October 4th, 2024 hearing has been set to determine if Fani Willis can remain on the case.
Three defendants, Kenneth Chesebro, Sidney Powell, and bail bondsman Scott Hall, have all pled guilty and have agreed to testify in other cases.
Conviction
Sentencing

Florida
40 federal felonies
Top Secret Documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.   3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - The trial had been set to begin May 20, 2024, but was subsequently delayed indefinitely by the judge, and has now been dismissed outright under the claims that the prosecutor was not Constitutionally appointed.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/judge-tosses-trump-documents-case-ruling-prosecutor-unlawfully-appointed-2024-07-15/

Jack Smith appealed Judge Cannon's ruling on Monday, 8/26 to the 11th circuit.

https://www.npr.org/2024/08/26/g-s1-19642/special-counsel-jack-smith-judge-cannon-appeal-trump-classified-documents
Conviction
Sentencing

Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, or the Arizona fake electors, have not been announced.

The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it's a civil case and not a crimimal one. He was found liable in that case for $83.3 million.

There had been multiple cases in multiple states to remove Trump from the ballot, citing ineligibility under the 14th amendment.

The Supreme Court ruled on March 4th that states do not have the ability to determine eligibility in Federal elections.

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/video/united-states-supreme-court-overturns-colorado-supreme-court-donald-trump-ballot-ruling/

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

From the outside it's weird how the states determine who the president will be but they don't set the rules for who can be on the ballot... In Canada federal and provincial/territorial elections are two completely separate things and the federal government manages its own elections no matter where people live in the country...

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Very annoying that they had to take out any mention of the DoJ, but better than nothing. Maybe. We'll see

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think they'd gone ahead with the superseding indictment if they didn't still think they had a case. These are smart people, and they're federal prosecutors who generally hate trying anything they won't likely win.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They are some of the best prosecutors on the planet. They know how to make a case stick... according to the law.

The problem is that we have a corrupt organization that is actively changing the law to protect trump. So... time will tell with whether this sticks or if we get another ruling that protects trump.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Destruction of the rule of law, a.k.a. tyranny.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely, they're facing a huge number of unknowns with a corrupt supreme court on Trump's side.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He was SCOTUS-ly ruled to be able to use DOJ as an 'official' act bc he was President when that occurred.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, we could do worse (see: Garland)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

I'd say that in retrospect we dodged a bullet by not having him on the Supreme Court... except even that corporate shitheel is miles better than fucking Gorsuch and that fucker is, himself, by far the least awful of Trump's appointments.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If this is in DC, does that mean no more Aileen Cannon for this case?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Different case.

Cannon's is the documents.

That's been appealed (yesterday) to 11th circuit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

And let’s hope it is a swift decision.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ahhh yes, the other set of federal criminal charges our former president and current presidential candidate is facing, not to be confused with the felony charges for which he was already found guilty or other charges in another state entirely.

I get that it can be confusing though

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Different case. Cannon is in charge/was in charge of the top secret document theft case. She dismissed it on justice Thomas extremely flimsy reasoning, so it's up to the appeals court to reinstate it.

This case is about his part planning, executing and covering up the Jan 6th insurrection.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sooner or later, by hook or by crook, Trump's gonna get nailed.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Epstein's log prove that's happened many times.