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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

low-status men

Is this correct terminology? It really sounds just like that misandrist Femcel shit that you would occasionally see on reddit communities like WGTOW.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you're thinking of "high/low-value." Regardless, hateful people will often try to wrap their ideology in terminology designed to mimic academic or scientific writing in order to appear logical or disspassionate. The red pill use of "hypergamy" is another common example.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“Often try,” more like almost always. There isn’t a word in economics that I’ve regularly heard used correctly. Not a fucking one.

My favorite, which is not from Econ: degenerate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It is very common, probably stems from the time when that kind of bullshit would actually be considered "respected" science. I have to ask what's wrong with the word degenerate? I have used the word my whole life, and now I'm mildly concerned, lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

As someone who studied econ, I feel like I should take offense ;D

Degenerate, in slang more commonly degen, is more or less a term for a low-life or morally repugnant behavior. It seems to have been picked up by the stock market gambling community (which is kinda funny in this context, didn't know that), but I recall it being a thing over a decade ago in the circles that community is enmeshed with, such as 4chan. Was used to denounce gays, masturbation, that kind of thing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's an academic term used in anthropology circles, studying primitive, ancient, or even non-human social structures.

In ape or chimpanzee social groups, high-status individuals (male or female) may have more mating opportunities, be able to eat first, insist on the best spots to sit, whatever. The specific benefits can vary from culture to culture, species to species.

It doesn't mean low-status individuals are shunned at all. They're still part of the group. But for whatever reason, they aren't given as much trust, opportunity, or maybe respect, as others in the group.

In our modern social world, it would be the correct scientific or academic term for people who are unable to attract a sexual partner, or make many friends, or build much "social capital", for any of several possible reasons.

People who have a job, or even a career, but wouldn't be considered for management, would also be considered low-status in that context.

In short, yes. It's the correct terminology.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah the incel word for the concept is “beta”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm wouldn't interpret that word choice in terms of intrinsic human value, I would interpret it as a facet of class warfare. Mate selection isn't even the only way in which social status screws men over; we don't send rich people's sons to the front lines of the wars they start either. Actually now that I think about it I wonder if those things are related; the bourgeoisie playbook has always heavily featured using masculinity as a way to push men towards violence for their own benefit. It used to be killing people in other countries, and now it's shifted more towards keeping people scared to step out of line in their homelands (although it's always been at least a little bit of both, and moves in waves). They need us to want to kill each other in some way or other, this is just one facet of that strategy. I forget who it was recently that actually said (a little too publicly) that if they don't get us all back under control soon they'll never be able to send us to war again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Women Going Their Own Way if I had to guess.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, that would be WGTOWIIHTG.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry Don, don't think this one was a TIL winner.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

Not all water is rain, but some is.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why isn't there more incel violence?

We conclude by offering one hypothesis as to why modern day incels are not as violent as we might expect. The Male Sedation Hypothesis, that online virtual worlds, such as pornography, may pacify the potential for violence among sexless young men, providing a counterfeit sense of sexual fulfillment and reducing motivation for real- life mate competition.

So in other words; in the past such men would have taken their frustration to the streets. Gathering into groups of other such men and causing trouble, kicking grannies and such. Nowdays they instead retreat into their mom's basements smoking weed, playing video games and watching porn.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yea well when I retire I would like to live in a house smoke weed. Play video games and watch porn once in a while.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

You thought most incels were violent yesterday?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Why is this upvoted lmfao