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[–] [email protected] 225 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

no Swedish law is being violated

Unfortunately, Swedish courts disagreed

[–] [email protected] 181 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not at that time. That came after the us government pushed the swedish government to do something and they in turn "strongly hinted" to the swedish judiciary system that they better do something.

And finally the sentencing judge socialised professionally with pro-copyright lobbyists.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

That came after the us government pushed the swedish government

🎶 We're all living in Amerika, Amerika ist wunderbar 🎵

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago

It is quite interesting that American corporations harass everyone, not just us Americans.

I got together with the other Americans, and we're cool of you all want to do something about them.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Nice bravado but he ultimately wasted years of his life in solitary confinement.

EDIT: ~~Maybe not years. Certainly months.~~ Actually it was over a year when you add the reported stints together.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I believe it was because he failed to return to Sweden to serve his Pirate Bay sentence and instead remained in Cambodia where he was living at the time. There was an international warrant out for his arrest and when he was deported back to Sweden he was judged at risk of flight or further "criminal activities". He was removed from solitary after a few months, so I'm not sure if he was put back there for his later, longer sentence of hacking.

EDIT: He was later held in solitary confinement in Denmark for at least 10 months while awaiting trial for hacking.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why would he need to be in solitary for being a flight risk? Sounds like you're mixing up regular prison and solitary confinement...

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

He was held in solitary confinement in both Sweden and Denmark. This was reported on at the time. I'm not sure why you're trying to second-guess me when you clearly have zero knowledge about the history of this guy.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“He is kept under restrictions as decided by the prosecutor. TV in his cell. He can buy cigarettes and sweets from a kiosk that comes Monday and Wednesdays,” Kristina explains.

“He is offered one hour ‘outdoors’ each day in some kind of exercise yard with high concrete walls. That is all he is allowed to leave his cell for. No gym, no opportunities to meet other people except for the guards.

Ok so I think what most people think about when they talk about solitary confinement is the US version where you have a small cell with a toilet, sink and bed and that's it, you're behind a door with a small window and sometimes you don't even get an hour of exercise...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Ok so I think what most people think about when they talk about solitary confinement is the US version

"Okay so I think what most people think about when they talk about Sweden and Denmark is the US".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"The European Court of Human Rights distinguishes between complete sensory isolation, total social isolation and relative social isolation[30] and notes that "complete sensory isolation, coupled with total social isolation can destroy the personality and constitutes a form of inhuman treatment which cannot be justified by the requirements of security or any other reason. " https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitary_confinement

If the European courts find it important to distinguish between types of solidary confinement them I feel like posters should as well. Otherwise you can't blame people for defaulting to the most commonly used type of solidarity confinement.

And the US has far more prisoners than Europeans do and we use solidary confinement far more often.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

You act like this is a universally confusing concept, when it's only Americans who seem to have difficulty understanding that different countries have different laws and definitions. In any case, it was reported as solitary confinement in both the EU and US at the time so I'm not really sure what you guys are crying about.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 3 weeks ago

Not at the time. That came later

[–] [email protected] 158 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

20 years ago, Pirate Bay's response

Holy shit I'm so old 😭

[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

20 years ago

Sees letter is dated 2004...

Why have you done this to me?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's like 8 years ago.

...

Wait... crap. We are old.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I refuse to think of 2000 as anything but the future where will all have flying cars.

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[–] [email protected] 133 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

One day I hope to write a "go fuck yourself" email of this caliber.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If every peasant started treating his opressor like this, we might actually start getting results.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We would need all peasants doing it at once. One peasant doing it just means you get your head cut off, which unfortunately doesn't help.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Some truth in that for sure.

I was talking more about when you get a chance to dunk one these clowns and you can do without getting hurt or you are willing to take calculated risk. Do it!

Most plebs now either too scared or otherwise unwilling to some basic FAFO and this made owner class brazen

Piracy is one of the best tools to tell the regime to get fucked IMHO

Seeing them bent our of shape over it is some of the best cope entertainment out there

[–] [email protected] 98 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Despite all the lawsuits, it's still sailing

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But not run by the original owners. And the current team is really shady. I wouldn't trust downloading an .exe from there.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Good thing you don't download executables from torrent sites?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Riddled with malware, but still sailing

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Been using it for decades, never an issue for me. What in the world are you trying to download over there??

[–] [email protected] 119 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well if he's daft enough to go looking for it, what's he expecting?

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 weeks ago
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago

I'd say this might be true for programs, but as long as you download movies, shows and music I'd assume it's fine as long as you use common sense.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago

The technologically illiterate pirate is an easy target.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The Darknet Diaries podcast made a really good episode about The Pirate Bay, telling the entire story, including funny stories like the responses to these letters, and interviewing Peter Sunde, one of the 3 founders. https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/92/

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks, you gave me a new podcast to listen to.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s one of my favorites! Also check out Search Engine, one of my favorite new podcasts with an amazing host. “What’s the best phone to do crimes on”, the latest episode, is excellent—Darknet Diaries covered the subject as well, but this goes into even more detail.

I also loved “Who’s behind all those spammy text messages?” but that one gets DARK.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

IIRC, the US accusers even quoted US federal law at TPB in emails preceding this. They had probably just assumed TPB were US based and this response where how they found out.

I'm still salty about Sweden bending over about this, tho. Sovereignty is a lie.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

Actually absolute bad-asses!

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Remember when they tried to buy Sealand?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

The hunt for the cofounders of torrent site The Pirate Bay was a lengthy game of cat-and-mouse, spanning several continents. In the end, Fredrik Neij, Peter Sunde and Gottfrid Svartholm all ended up in prison.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

This puts me in mind of Arkell vs. Pressdram.

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