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With the elections nearing and the Biden-Harris administration still being complicit in Genocide there is but one way for crocodile tear liberals to fix the issue: Start banning anyone who comments about the Biden administration being complicit in Genocide.

/Politics mod JordanLund who also mods /WorldNews decides Biden has nothing to do with the Genocide in Gaza

JordanLund banned users in the past for questioning israel's right to exist. JordanLund now takes it one step further and is now spreading misinformation about israel not running out of weapons without American support so Biden and Harris are "not complicit in Genocide":

I link him a guardian article proving he is lying (JordanLund has deleted my comment which just quoted a Guardian article debunking his lies):

Biden must force Israel to end the war

Recent reports in the Israeli press make clear that because of a global shortage of ammunition that started with the Ukraine war, Israel would not be able to sustain its bombardment of Gaza without the US resupplying the Israeli military.

JordanLund responds by calling TheGuardian misinformation, promptly bans me and says he supports the "rightful defense of israel".

He also piles on more lies and claims the only weapons being sent by Biden are Interceptor missiles which are "misappropriated by israel for the use in Genocide"?

Reuters Exclusive: US has sent Israel thousands of 2,000-pound bombs since Oct. 7

Between the war's start last October and recent days, the United States has transferred at least 14,000 of the MK-84 2,000-pound bombs

Lemmy.World has reached /Politics and /WorldNews communities which differ little from their Reddit counterpart.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

You were banned for repeatedly saying Joe Biden and now Kamala Harris are personally responsible for the genocide being committed by Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu.

You want to make it sound like Biden and Harris are out there personally pulling the triggers dropping bombs.

NONE of that is true and I gave you extraordinarily free rein in both World News and Politics.

But when you went off calling Harris "The Vice President of a Genocide" and then doubled down again and again, that was the end for you.

You're passionate on a topic that we both agree on, but your passion has taken you off the deep end into conspiracy theory bullshit and nonsense.

You really should focus more on holding Israel accountable for Israel's actions... like snipers killing kids:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/02/gaza-palestinian-children-killed-idf-israel-war

https://truthout.org/articles/israel-has-tripled-the-number-of-children-its-killing-via-gunfire-in-west-bank/

Israel has been committing war crimes in Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon and Syria for DECADES before Biden and Harris held political office. They are not to blame here, Israel is. Bibi is. Their crimes will continue regardless of support from the US or who is President.

Blame the actual perpetrators, not those you imagine are involved via six degrees of separation.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

Come on man. He flat out says it not a genocide so he can keep helping and supporting Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-whats-happening-gaza-is-not-genocide-2024-05-20/

Our state department defers to Israel to investigate the war crimes caught on film.

One doesn't need to be the one pulling the trigger to be responsible.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

lol I love it when the mod comes in after to set the record straight.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

While I do think that Biden is complicit in a genocide, I also think Linkerbaan is a bad-faith actor who repeatedly violates not just community rules, but the rules of lemmy.world as a whole. I've written a longer comment about it elsewhere.

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You deleted my linked articles for "misinformation" and are now retroactively making up lies to justify your defense of a Genocide. But I'm glad you're admitting that mentioning the Democrats complicity in the Genocide in Gaza is a bannable offense on Lemmy.World/Politics and /WorldNews.

Blame the actual perpetrators, not those you imagine are involved via six degrees of separation.

Yeah don't blame the Biden administration sending the F35's, 14000 2000 pound bombs, Jet fuel, interceptor missiles and running diplomatic cover in and outside of the UN going as far as pressuring other countries to deploy troops in Gaza for israel.

Let's see what employees of the Biden adminstration have to say about it

US has 'undeniable complicity' in Gaza war killings, say former US officials: A dozen former U.S. government officials who quit over U.S. support for Israel's war in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday accused President Joe Biden's administration of "undeniable complicity" in the killing of Palestinians in the enclave.

In a joint statement, opens new tab, the 12 former government officials said the administration was violating U.S. laws through its support for Israel and finding loopholes to continue shipping weapons to its ally.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In line with my claim elsewhere in this thread that this account is following the alt-right playbook, in the above comment we see:

  • Never Play Defense (instead of defending themselves against the claims, they jump immediately to attacks)
  • Control the Conversation (instead of addressing their own behaviour, they try to pivot back to the very topics that got them banned)

Their actions match strongly with those of a bad faith contributor who focuses on a single topic (the genocide in Palestine) on one particular side (anti-genocide) whilst advocating for actions that many (including myself) have pointed out would, in fact, lead to the opposite result. When others point this out, what they get in return isn't a nuanced discussion of these concerns, but rather personal attacks that I believe qualify as repeated violations of rule 1.1 of lemmy.world.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

All of your deleted posts are maintained in your (extensive) modlog:

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&userId=3867209

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes they are what's your point? Are you trying to pivot from admitting you're censoring a Genocide now?

Misinformation right?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not censoring genocide, you're free to attack the actual perpetrators. Problem is, you aren't. You also have this weird purity test for people who disagree with you.

In the end, you come across like this, which is why you got banned:

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

Jfc bombs are not part of the iron dome

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You should absolutely be banned from all of Lemmy, because you're obviously not arguing in good faith ever.

But instead of that, mods kowtow to your whining and you're not banned from much, if anything, ever. They even reverse bans which were an appropriate response to your toxicity. You get people banned or their comments deleted when they call you out.

It's like Facebook where tone is policed but intent is ignored. A lot of people see that you're doing bad shit and no one is stopping you. You whine about every little response to your toxicity.

I'm sure you totally won't claim that I'm a Zionist or genocide supporter/enabler, because that's totally not your response to all disagreement or criticism /s

I'm also sure you won't make a weird claim about me being a "stalker" because I once said I have questioned myself in thinking you post so much and as a result, checked your profile /s

Edit: for a better view of this user's behavior pattern, see: https://lemmy.world/post/18634532

I recommend skipping the sob story and reading the comments

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you're crazy, and you need to get off the internet and touch grass. Jesus christ. Just, idk ? Move on with your fucking life? You're internet comments do nothing and help nothing for your 'cause'.

The emotional unhingement on some of y'all lemmy users is seriously concerning.

Like, someone needs to call the dam police on y'all, cause this extremist nonsense here, I feel as though someone as delusional as yourself, is going to do something stupid to hurt people.

You're getting government watch list type of attention.

[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago

Mods of a political forum censoring a Genocide seems pretty relevant but I guess it doesn't matter much to you.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Lemmy.world has always been home for Zionists, the admins and moderators have made that clear.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

General question: is there any alternative news communities to the ones on LW and lemmy.ml? Seems like there is some demand

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lemmy.Zip has one which occasionally shows up and is pretty good https://lemmy.world/c/[email protected]

The centralization issue around Lemmy.World is starting to become a bigger issue now the mods are actively censoring any opinion which does not match their own.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah yes, forgot about Lemmy.zip! They are a good alternative indeed, hopefully they'll catch up with all the debates on the Media checker bot

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Too bad that my internet policy seems to be interfering with all zip sites. Doesn't connect even when I change DNS. Though weirdly it does work when I use it with a VPN or Warp (which is also kind of a VPN but not really).

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's sad indeed

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

State department approved moderation policy, these people must have been extremely obedient hall monitors in high school