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Is there a need for a television community that is not on lemmy.world? (sopuli.xyz)

submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hello everyone,

Some context: it is usually agreed here than centralization of communities on Lemmy.world is detrimental to Lemmy as a federated platform (see this post https://sopuli.xyz/post/11972110 for detailed explanations), which is why a few communities have been started to get general topics off LW:

One topic that is still quite popular today is television, and there are basically two options

[email protected] which some people prefer to avoid, which makes sense. Also, it's currently unmoderated except by the Automod bot, the last human bot left a few days ago.
[email protected] which is known to be managed by a single mod prompt to power tripping mod (see https://lemm.ee/post/30754133)

I am thus opening this thread to see if people would be interesting in opening a television community elsewhere. I'm going to ping the last posters on that topic in the comments.

Edit: the objective here is to find potential moderators for that new community.

See you around

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yeah go for it, i'm happy to start posting in a new community

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Would you like to moderate too? I have enough communities at the moment, so the objective is also to find other mods for that potential new community

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd also be okay with creating a new community, but I'm not interested in moderating.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Thank you for your comment!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sure, no worries, i can

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Great! Which instance do you have in mind?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Haven't thought about it, which so you recommend?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Let's see what other people suggest.

Lemm.ee is solid, and there is already [email protected] and [email protected] there, so that could be an option.

Sh.itjust.works is always an option, but I'm personally not a big fan of the name.

The rest of the top 10 instances by MAU (https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy/) are rather targeted to a specific demographic (blahaj), language (feddit.org) or topic (programming.dev)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

https://metacritics.zone was made for that. I am planning to add soon the functionality to let people create communities by themselves on instances they do not have an account on, but if you want I can create it for you.

Update: created. If any of you wants to become a moderator, let me know.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That can be an option too, but I could see why people might want to choose an instance with a higher number of monthly active users.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Please, not this again...

There are no users in the instance because registrations are closed and I was creating the communities on demand to make a home for the mirroring bots. The idea of these instances is to be a home for groups, not for people, precisely to avoid issues of politics and constant concerns about centralization.

All I am asking now is for you (and others) to try it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We can go through this again, having the network of communick communities depending on you might be seen as a single point of failure.

I know you have said that there are other people involved, and who could take over if needed, but I could also see why people, seeing instances like lemm.ee, or reddthat.com, well managed for over a year, would be more inclined to use those.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, we are definitely rehashing the discussion. If you don't trust that I can do a good job enough by myself (despite never having any major outages), the best way to ensure that these instances can have a guaranteed longevity is by having them growing the network. Let us grow the network, and I'll be able to either (a) hire more people or (b) making them attractive for sponsors or (c) letting the community take over and manage it as a separate entity.

But above all, please don't take your personal concerns and attribute them to "other people".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But above all, please don’t take your personal concerns and attribute them to “other people”.

Sorry, missed that comment.

Do you really believe I am preventing other people to post content to the communities hosted on your instances?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

All I mean is that I would rather you talk about the things that concern you instead of arguing indirectly by mentioning "other people" that are just abstract entities.

LIke, it's fine if you don't want to contribute to the topic-based instances because of the concerns you stated. But when you say "some other people might think this" instead of being upfront and say "I think this", you create an impossible conundrum for me to solve: as much as I can try to work with you to solve the issues that concern you, I can not find and work with "other people".

Also, even if you don't want me to argue this case with you, it would be easier/better when you are straightforward about it. I'd take the hint and just "agree to disagree" on this particular topic, and move on.

Hope that makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

how about?

[email protected]

Keeps it general, open to tv, movies, anime etc

General rules:

Encourage others
No Ad hominem attacks
Stay on the general topic

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It seems like there is enough content to distinguish animation (thanks to the work of @[email protected] on [email protected] ), movies and television, so maybe a dedicated television community is better?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hey, bumping this comment, still interested in moderating a potential [email protected] ?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, but I can't make a community on lemm.ee without making a user on lemm.ee which is unfortunate. That kinda killed my momentum when I looked into it.

I'll make a note so it doesn't fall off my to-do list.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hello,

Just checking in, do you know when you think you'll be able to create the community?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks for the reminder

https://lemm.ee/post/40189983

[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I miss the Lemmy film and TV instance. That's the perfect subject for a specific instance to be centered around. Somebody should bring that back.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I miss it too

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]

@[email protected] @[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

why are you tagging me *edit - yes, a television community would be fine. but you don't need to tag me in post, I'm a member of this community. if you post it, I'll see it when I come here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thank you for your comment.

I pinged you to see if you had any other opinion to share on this initiative, so thank you for this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

yeah just please don't do it again

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Noted!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Burying the intent to find moderators in the comments, not vetting those moderators, and pinging known aggressive users into the thread are each gigantic red flags by themselves. But, it may succeed on luck and user effort, despite the quality of work.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Burying the intent to find moderators in the comments

Updated in the post

not vetting those moderators

Wouldn't that happen after potential moderators show up? If you are referring to @[email protected], they have been known for being around for a while, so that's as much vetting as can be done

pinging known aggressive users

~~Who are you referring to? The main criteria was looking at who posted recently about television, and get their feedback.~~

Edit: Removed their ping from the comment.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Edit: had to go through your comment history to find out. Removed their ping from the comment.

Now I've got to remove the comments so I'm not a target. Thanks for the "help".

Perhaps, because of your numerous, large magnitude, elementary, and now combinational errors, you should halt your efforts, seek the help of a small group, and only then go public.

Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection. - MLK Jr.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

so I’m not a target. Thanks for the “help”.

Removed that too.