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A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.

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All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.

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Higher wages for underpaid workers.
Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
Better and fewer working hours.
Stimulating a massive wave of worker organizing in the United States and beyond.
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Jim Cramer Says OEMs Should Move American Auto Manufacturing To Mexico For $5/hour In Response To UAW Demands (jalopnik.com)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If any of the American brands do this, then I'm never buying their brands again and I'll go Toyota forever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well - why not introduce import tariffs for those goods then? Or would this be against NAFTA rules?

Edit: Read a post further down - it might indeed be against NAFTA rules.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is the problem with nafta. NAFTA created an environment that is hard for unions to operate in. The big 3 can send it all to Mexico and just ship the final product back.

Or Canada. Either is cheaper labor wise.

It’s why nafta needs to be renegotiated.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Unionize Mexico

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nafta has restrictions around worker pay. Overall though it might be bad for auto workers in the US but much more beneficial to the average American.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

NAFTA is horrible for the average American. It destroys unions and wages. It allows a massive export of our jobs to other countries.

You have a cite around workers pay? That wasn’t in the original plan.

Eta: found an article from 2017

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/17/657806248/will-nafta-2-0-really-boost-mexican-wages

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is protectionism really the solution?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'm already paying more for American made products, in search of better oversight and safety. If it offered workers better pay, that would be a huge win for "voting with my wallet".

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Canada really isn't that much cheaper than the US to manufacture and they are also unionized. You just get the currency advantage (1USD = ~$0.72 CAD). Stellantis already moved Ram production to Mexico. The bigger issue is relative competition with Asian imports and Tesla who have no union factories because they produce mostly in the south.

Either way, it would make little sense to move F150 and Silverado to Mexico. Hard to claim you drive American industry but produce in Mexico. I think the frustration is that multiple reasonable offers have been made and the UAW has yet to move from their original position. Which is ironic given they accused Stellantis and GM with bargaining in bad faith.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hard to claim you drive American industry but produce in Mexico.

Yeah Ford's multi-million dollar "all in on America" football ad campaign will look pretty fucking ironic if they move all of their production elsewhere.

(Not that I believe it anyway)

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