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Rhode Island DMV Is Trying To Ban Kei Trucks Again (www.thedrive.com)
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But why the decision to ban Kei trucks from Rhode Island streets? Because the DMV claims they don't meet Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS).

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

That snippit is out of context. The DMV claims they don't meet FMVSS because they don't.

... the DMV claims they don't meet Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS). And while it's true Kei vehicles don't meet those safety standards, they shouldn't have to. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), imported vehicles at least 25 years old are exempt from FMVSS.

They are exploiting a loophole for personal antique vehicles to import or resell a fleet that doesn't meet safety standards. It can become an issue and absolutely within scope of the DMV to keep an eye on.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Then the DMV better start cracking down on large trucks (F250, etc) as well. NHTSA "safety" standards have had all kinds of loopholes exempting large trucks and SUV from basic safety features including rollover protection, head restraint, and various impact protection systems.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile motorcycle are still allowed.
Double standards.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Motorcycles require additional certification before riding

[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago

Damn, I’d study and take the test for a Kei truck citation in a heartbeat

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The driver is unprotected on a Motorcycle, the kei truck ban is ... because it doesn't protect enough the driver in case of crash.
If you put the motorcycles on the same standard than the cars, none but a few would be allowed.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Helmets are not required in Rhode Island

[–] [email protected] 78 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Weird safety standards.
They don't care about pedestrians (see Cybertruck)?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago

See any truck

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago

The cyber truck is safe for pedestrians. Can't hit a pedestrian if it never leaves the repair bay for recalls.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The EU takes pedestrians (and cyclists) in account for safety standards, the US doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How do SUVs fit in that standard in EU?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You basically need to design the car so pedestrians bounce over the hood instead of going under. So you can still to an SUV, but can't really do a Ford F150 style front.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

But the F150/Ranger and esp. RAM Trucks exist here

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The safety requirements this vehicle doesn't meet could easily be regarding hood design; highly studied and regulated to minimize pedestrian injury such as sharp angles or being pulled under the hood.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I'm convinced the only thing lawsuits are waiting for is the accidents where they maim pedestrians. CT is a disaster for Tesla.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Ironic that kei trucks on this side of the pond are actually more productive than those killer pickup trucks prowling the roads.