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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/16660104

Consider supporting Lemmy development or donating to your local server if you have the means. Peace!

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm no expert but 1 in 50 donors doesn't even seem too bad

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago

Honestly that actually looks like a lot especially since this doesn't seem to include 1 time donations and donating to your home instances.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I think the number is much higher if you consider all the people donating to their local server.

Plus your numbers seem off. For example, Librapay shows that there are currently over 300 people with weekly donations. Where are past or one time donors listed?

Patreon is paying out $2k a month, and has over 400 donors.

Your number seems much more like the number of regular donors rather than the total number of donors ever.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Right. My instance maintainer accepts donations via Ko-fi, which isn't even listed here.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The links here are specifically the donation links to donate to the Lemmy devs. So even though they link to Open Collective, that's specifically the Lemmy dev one. There are others for other instances.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Sure, but the body of the post mentions donating to devs and instance owners. I'm being pedantic I know, but I think it would be a more informative post if it'd made clear what the donation numbers refer to and what they don't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just took it from the stats on join-lemmy.org. I'm not sure how it's determined.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah, that's the number of current donors with a regular donation. They have a goal of supporting 3 devs full time from regular donations, and this is showing their progress towards that goal.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Surprisingly high number. Gold rate.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is there any transparency around the donations?

  • What's the sum of the donations?
  • What's the split between reoccurring donations and one off donations?
  • How many mouths does it feed?
  • How many of those mouths are full time?
  • What's the split between the mouths?
[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Our current donation amounts, summing from the various platforms, and live updated every few hours, are here: https://join-lemmy.org/donate

Currently we have 2 full time devs(nutomic and me, splitting ~1 dev salary, as you can see from the above link), and have 2-3 more that we'd like to add as fulltime to our little dev coop.

We're also in the process of getting another year of funding from NLNet (we'll announce this once its finalized), which will go to the new devs we're trying to onboard.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is there a difference between a donation and a sponsor? As in are the NLNet contributions included in that €4k value?

Since you've used different terms it makes me think they're different.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We sometimes get one-off crypto donations, but they're pretty rare. The totals on that site are the recurring donations / sponsors, which helps make it easier to estimate our yearly budget.

NLnet is separate from that above also, and was what made lemmy possible by letting us work on it full-time, for most of its history. We've been trying to shift to a sponsorship / recurring donation model, as that's more sustainable for the future, and will let us grow the co-op better.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah okay, so it's not as transparent as it seems? It sounds like some of the contributions are hidden.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No, everything is transparent.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

NLnet is separate from that above also, and was what made lemmy possible by letting us work on it full-time, for most of its history.

Forgive my misunderstanding. I don't understand this sentence then. I read it as the NLnet contributions are not included in the €4k value. May you clarify please?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Why have you chosen to not clarify?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Excellent questions. I'd be more likely to donate if there was a page answering them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

😎 <- you

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Good reminder. Subbed to patreon

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

That number seems a bit low, but it’s really important to support Lemmy and your instance.

I’d love to support my instance, but it ain’t doable for now (at least it wasn’t when I looked into it around Christmas).

I also think accepting donations demand some organization with taxes and everything. That’s why some instances don’t accept them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hey, if you can't swing it right now, that's totally OK. The beauty of FOSS is how accessible it is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Well I can but my instance doesn’t accept money for now.

I guess all the steps you have to go through to accept donations are disuading some maintainers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Kinda reminds me of youtuber asking people to suscribe their channels because most of the users watching their videos are not suscribed, it's not gonna change, but in this case, it would be nice if people could donate, i personally can't, i wish, but i can't

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I can and do donate to the Lemmy project. I should also donate to the instances I use. I'll donate for you as well, I don't even need Netflix.