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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (3 children)

i can only get behind this meme if the apartments have fantastic sound deadening, because sharing walls with strangers is fucking awful

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I live in a building that was new in 2021. I have never heard any of my neighbors. Modern building materials and techniques go a long way.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's wild, I feel like all the new build condos near me are paper thin walls but granite countertops so it can be sold as "luxury"

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Yeah, capitalism making every aspect of your life worse but still charging you more is what you would expect to see

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I think it depends a lot on whether you're in a 5-over-1 wooden frame thing or a bigger concrete tower. The wooden buildings I've been in all have seemed passable to pretty bad at noise but the concrete ones have always been great, even the old run-down 1950s ones I've lived in (mold was awful in that 1950s one, but the noise was never an issue).

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd assume older buildings to be better on noise than a modern build.

My main boomer opinion is agreeing that "they don't build em like they used to" grillman

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My building is relatively new, concrete and steel construction, and my neighbor could take up chainsaw sculptures and I wouldn't know.

Those wooden 5-over-1s where the wood is actually sawdust and oil though? Yeah those let a lot of noise through.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

100% feel that. When I lived in the city I had other college aged adults living around me and most of the weekend I couldn't ever get a good night's sleep with them blasting the stereo until like 3am.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Unfortunately in america theyd also pave all the nature for parking lots

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or clear cut for the "View"

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s like, actually a beautiful view though. The actual view is more like:

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Totally disagree that it's beautiful, lol. To me it looks like a smoggy choked out hellscape. Of all the cities I've been to, New York is the one I disliked the most, bar none.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It really depends on the city. That view in particular, yeah, it's kinda depressing. I think the skylines of the DPRK's big cities are beautiful, though. No advertising, colorful buildings, lots of public art, clean streets, clean air.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Of all the cities I've been to, New York is the one I disliked the most, bar none

On the one hand I respect your opinion comrade. On the other hand fucking fight me.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

i think that reactionary suburb brain is almost a kind of stockholm syndrome. literally, for all of history the overwhelming majority of people have always congregated in walkable units.

suburbs were created as a corporate racist policy a vast number of people simply had the most access to, not because there was a fair and weighed decision on everyone's part. and following that it's sunk cost & aversion to change. like literally all the nascent suburbanites came from apartments, tenements, and public projects, there wasn't some groundswell of people demanding, against every civilizational instinct to spread themselves out in isolation that corporate demands "met", it's that the availability of newly-built properties the tenant would eventually own shifted almost entirely to suburban development---and lets not forget that early suburbs were much, much better served before neoliberalism began cannibalizing it, you couldn't very well get all the whites out of the city & into food deserts, they provided all the amenities and created all these suburban municipalities so suburbanites could pretend they still lived in cities, simply with more privacy, segregation, and automobiles.

tldr, if corporate greed hadn't created suburban sprawl as a product, we wouldn't even have people defending it, but they also created a constituency of people whose only capital is tied up in the suburban ponzi scheme who are now vociferous defenders of it

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I hate this picture because I should be allowed to ride my bicycle inside the store! sicko-biker

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

I ain't sharin' a fucking building, do I look like some commie?! Also I want the nearest convenience store to be 1000 miles away and I can only get there with my gas guzzling penis compensator! frothingfash frothingfash frothingfash

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is actually pretty generous considering those houses are right next to each other. most suburbs are way more spaced out

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah, with equivalent density to the majority of suburbs in my area you would only be able to fit 20 houses on that island. Also, the streets are a grid? Fuck that we need weird curvy roads that dead-end in cul-de-sacs.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I FUCKING LOVE DENSE POPULATIONS WITH NATURE CLOSE spongebob-i-fucking-love

Bring back the 50s ethos of the complete walkable suburbs. The million programme (showing my Swedish here) is the best period of Swedish architecture actually building habitats. Having a forest 200 meters away from my high density population social housing was the highlight of my childhood.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

grillman I like the one on the left because everyone is taking care of their lawn.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also, imagine if you twisted your ankle, have a really bad stomach ache, or have a disability, or in a snowstorm, and had to walk all the way across the island to and from your errands. Density equals accessibility as well as less time spent going to where you want to go and more time being at where you want to be at.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The quickest way to any destination is a straight line, thats why we need to build this golf course here in the middle of everything.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But I hate both nature and other people. Were it up to me, the whole of the world would be a closely manicured golf course and the only animals would be in processing centers.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Hey now, don't forget your private jet so you have something to do errands in.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Apartments also seem nice since it would mean being surrounded by people and more chances of doing stuff with them and having fun instead of being alone and isolated.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Because my neighbors are assholes.

Also I want a yard. And an attic. I've got nowhere to go to enjoy some sunshine in private, and nowhere to store my shit. Apartment/condo living sucks.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Wow, sunshine and storage. 2 incredible excuses that absolutely justifying utterly destroying the planet.

Acquire less "shit". Walk to the local park.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Having to acknowledge the existence of other people is literally 1984.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I don't know that putting 100 condos in a beachside flood-zone is actually a good idea in terms of construction, or land-use either, but like, you could maybe make a small cluster of buildings closer to the center of the island to achieve a similar effect.

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