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I know this would vary from locale to locale, but, presumably, there are some animals that do not require a permit to kill (mice in mouse traps, for example). How does this work? Is there a list of "always OK to kill" species?

Edit: Thank you everybody for the replies!

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Difference between countries, but here it is legal as long as all of the following criteria are met: a) the animal in question isn't endangered or specifically protected, b) if domesticated, that you have destruction rights for the animal (generally the case for pets), and c) it is killed in a "humane way" which is a rather long list of don'ts.

There was a woman in my town charged for animal abuse by trapping mice in a "wrong" way that didn't properly minimise suffering.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That sounds like when my wife set out some no-kill mice traps, but then never inspected them.

During the middle of summer.

When it hit 115 F.

She agreed that kill traps would be more humane going forward.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So how was the mouse organ?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Norway, but I believe we have basically same laws as rest of Europe even if enforcement varies.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Depends where you live. Wild animals, we called local animal control about a opossum we'd caught in a cat trap (trying to catch a local stray cat) wanting to know what they wanted us to do with it. and they let us know about the felony we were about to admit to committing and did we want to shut the fuck up. Apparently we needed a license to trap wild animals. So telling your local animal control after the fact isn't in your best interests, but they could provide guidance before the fact. If you're in Washington State, you leave those (just put on the local endangered list) western gray squirrels the fuck alone.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You just gotta add a sign that says "Warning: trapping wild animals without a license is illegal. This trap is for feral cats only. Any wild animals found in this trap will be shot on sight."

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Holy cow. I live in Oregon and there are at least 50 western gray squirrels just around my house. There are tons along the river by our house too. I didn't know they are endangered in Washington. How weird, considering we're neighboring states (although there is a huge river between us).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

OMG!!!!!!!, A FUCKIN YEET CANNON ACROSS THE RIVER!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I think their habitats got hit hard by the fires this year. Not entirely sure. I'm not a squirrelologist

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

In Australia there are different species which are endangered or plentiful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure it's the Eastern grey's around the house. Not endangered in the slightest. [https://myodfw.com/wildlife-viewing/species/squirrels-chipmunks-and-marmots](Western grey squirrels have no brown color at all and are bigger. Don't think I've ever seen one.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm quite familiar with the eastern gray, and these aren't those, as the tails are much fluffier and also grayer as well as not having any yellow highlights like the eastern. And they're all big boys. Some of them could be eastern but lord either way, there are a lot of squirrels here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I guess you're just lucky :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

They taunt my dogs constantly, which they love so they're certainly happy. But they wake me up running around on my roof so me not so much.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Why are you interested in killing a squirrel?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is causing mayhem with talking moose

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

OP is a Russian operative confirmed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Ублюдок

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It calls me names, I can hear it plotting against me!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Not sure if you're joking but I have seen people eat squirrel IRL.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I wanted to as a kid because they kept eating my hammocks.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

I'm in the US. I would look under local small game rules. You should be able to find a list or table of critters considered game, and maybe specific rules on "nuisances". If it isn't called out as needing anything special then you're probably fine.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

I know this would vary from locale to locale, but

But still you don't tell for which one you are asking?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Shit, if you do in my state I've broken the law hundreds of times. My friend and I used to go out to this bit of farm land specifically to shoot the squirrels, because the farmer paid a bounty on each one brought back as proof. It was like an IRL low-level gold/XP farming quest!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (5 children)

You'd have made more money breeding squirrels. Easier too.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Georgia has a season for hunting squirrels. I believe you can kill feral hogs anytime but are supposed to use whatever is legal for the current hunting season. Most things have a season. Your state's DNR website should have lists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

In Maine you can hunt red squirrel all year. Grey squirrel season is like September 1 to December 31. Can’t hunt greys outside those months there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

In England it's illigal to keep a squirrel in captivity, but it's also illigal to release a captured squirrel back into the wild, so the only option is to (humanely) kill the poor fucker.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Grey Squirrels I presume. I imagine they don't want the reds killed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Did you know both are invasive? I read a study once that our native species of squirrels are extinct and went extinct some time ago.

At roughly the same time rich landowners imported both the Eurasian reds and the American greys. We have decided to conserve the reds as they’re closest to our native reds but it’s very subjective.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nobody has ever faced charges for it. If you find an injured grey, care for it, then release it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, guaranteed I would be the first 🤣

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

There are multiple different rules in many locales. Here are the rule for MN (as of 20 years ago) The DNR has a season on them, so you have to have a small game license (no license needed if under 16), hunt in season, obey the maximum per day limits, and eat it after you kill it. The health department considers them rodents and will sometimes issue permits to kill them year round in specific areas, you don't need to eat them. Agriculture law allows you to kill any non-endangered species that is a pest (this is what allows you to kill mice as well).

Remember the above is MN law as of 20 years ago when I last checked. Such law changes from time to time and place to place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

For species that are listed as nuisance animals, it can be legal to kill them without a hunting license and out of a hunting season. If there's evidence that the animal is causing significant harm, it can generally be killed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Really depends state to state or even property by property. For example, you need a permit to hunt squirrels in South Carolina, however you don't need one to hunt coyotes. The reason is 1: your more likely to go after a squirrel than you would a coyote, and 2: coyotes are actually a problem for wildlife in SC and you are actually allowed to kill one on cite. I guess the factors come down to likelihood of being a target and whether or not it's a nuisance.

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