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Oh look another shooting that basic safe storage laws could have prevented, without even restricting firearm ownership, but ammosexuals still resist them.
proper gun ownership turns you gay tho
It looks like she violated the storage laws.
No, its more like they came up with that as a way to punish someone for this act. As far as im aware, there isnt a law describing how guns need to be sotred to keep them away form kids and if there is, it sure as hell isnt enforced.
How do you enforce this other than punishing it when something happens? The police can't just go into people's homes to double check that they have their firearms stored safely. People aren't going to report themselves.
Why can't they they? That's how it works in most other developed nations?
How would safe storage laws prevent this? They would just result in another charge for the mother. You really think someone who leaves a gun around with a 6 year old with behavioral issues would lock it up just because of a law?
Storage laws are the easiest to abide by, though. My stuff all lives in a safe, which key is on my person, because my dotty wife and ditzy daughter frequently forget to lock the door behind them.
Is an intruder just gonna take the safe and lockboxes? Yep.
Am I gonna report that theft as "lockbox, contained one pistol (SN:xxxxxxxx); loaded magazine, 9 rounds?" You betcha.
As you say, LPL videos are free so a lockbox and safe are like, the least obstructive Imlediments ever. What's the harm in this Pascal's wager?
Edit: bah! Wrong reply bug! This was directed to a comment down thread 👇
The implication is that you actually enforce the laws after you implement them, rather than just implementing them as a way to add a charge. For example in my country police will come to inspect my house at least once a year to make sure im storing them properly and if a neighbour complains or something they will also make an unschedules checked.
I get American gun owners would take this basic safety precaution as the deepest violation of a tyranical government and would shoot a cop before they let them inspect their home for safety, but my point is if they did agree to sensible safe storage legislation this wouldnt have happened
This shit happens literally every day in the US. At this point, it’s like getting worked up about the wind blowing. They’re a lost cause.
Jesus Christ dude.
Bingo they're just a barrier to entry that negatively effects those of lower income since safes aren't cheap. Start a program to provide secure no cost safes upon request and I'm with you.
Trigger locks are $10
Trigger locks aren't secure storage and moreover they're not $10 every local sheriff's office I'm aware of will provide a trigger lock or cable lock at no charge no questions asked.
Lockpickinglawyer youtube videos are free.
Nobody on the internet can mention safe storage of firearms without an apologists for people who keep guns in a drawer turning up and saying "Lockpickinglawyer".
Lol apologist? Are you kidding me right now?
Sorry most gun locks aren't what they're marketed as. If all I need to beat a lock is a slip of plastic from a 2 litter your lock is not secure.
LockPickingLawyer is extremely good at picking and bypassing locks. Most children and opportunistic criminals are not.
His channel also showcases the worst locks he can find, because that's where the views are. In countries with gun laws that actually work, they often have approved safes and locks specifically to ensure they meet a reasonable standard of security.
Millions of Americans keep loaded guns in drawers, glove compartments, closets and naff hidden compartments. The pro-gun community generally turns a blind eye to this and staunchly oppose measures to ensure "responsible gun owners" are actually being responsible.
And the excuse that always pops up eventually is "LockpickingLawyer proves that trying to secure guns with more than threats of domestic violence is a waste of time".
Who taught the 6 year old to load, cock and use a gun? I'm guessing the sob mother won't fess up to it. Maybe kids are smarter than we think?
Surely the 6 year old in question will just eBay a set of sparrow picks and practice tumblers
This is just poor logic. Guns themselves cost money, which negatively effects those one lower incomes. Should we provide free guns to anyone that wants one too?
And you know what else negatively effects those on low incomes? Being shot.
Not at all. Guns are often inherited and transferred without fee. And yes in my opinion if you pass a free series of tests on gun ownership/responsibility/safety then yeah, as a militaristic country invasion is almost certainty sooner or later. Should we be militaristic? Probably not but we adjust for the conditions as they are not as we wish them to be.
Correct, systemic issues including fun fact gun control attempts make lower income areas higher crime and thus higher gun crime. Weird huh?
Are you having a stroke? None of this makes any sort of sense.
It's plain English boss, reading comprehension is your part to provide.
Lmao, whatever you say buddy.
It's potentially missing one comma, it's still quite legible but again understanding it is up to you.
Some states require a trigger lock to be sold along with the weapon. Not as good as a safe but it should prevent accidental discharge. That being said I would support a program to provide no-cost lock boxes (not giant safes) for handguns.
Well that depends on what "unsecured" really means
Laws don't force people to use gun safety protocols, but I think the violation of such laws needs to be a felony (no more guns for you).