Tbf a lot of people just want a petty bourgeois vacation.
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Honestly, I’d probably choose something by the ocean. I DO NOT trust the deep woods in the US. I do not want to go out for a morning walk and see myself staring back at me from behind a tree further down the trail or some devious cryptid garbage like that.
Miss me with that.
I'm not into cryptid stuff but I understand the sentiment with American woods. Lord knows how many dangerous people are just wandering around wilderness areas looking for random solo victims, given the USAs serial killer/mass murder numbers and how easy it is to get a gun. And it would impossible to ever find a killer like that.
It depends where you go. There are mountain lions in some parts as well. Coyotes and wolves are carnivores as well. Carnivores generally don't go for dangerous prey unless there is nothing else to eat. Just get yourself high enough in the trees where the bears and coyotes can't reach you when you are sleeping. If you are with a group of people closeby, they have enough sense to know that messing with one of you is a death sentence.
To be fair, climbing up in trees isn't gonna save you from a bear.
It will. Depends what type of bear though.
A grizzly? Their fat butts slowly climb at a glacial pace. A black bear? No climbing as they are Olympic class climbers, but you stand, make yourself big, and “fight” as they are cowards and are terrified by confrontation.
A polar bear? Lmao, get ready to die.
A grizzly will just knock the tree down if it can't climb to you.
Climbing a tree is delaying the inevitable with most animals. If they have decided to eat you and can't reach you, they just wait.
What kind of small sad trees are you climbing?
A grizzly is never knocking the down a bog standard regular oak tree.
Lots of pines where I live. The oak trees aren't native to the region.
Ah makes sense. But still, most US forests are comprised of Oak, Ash, Maple, Elm, etc. All trees that wouldn’t even feel a bear crashing into them at max speed.
But still, unless the tree is fairly young, I genuinely feel like any pine that could carry a humans weight could easily shrug off a bear pushing on it.
Plus Grizzlys aren’t some psychopathic hunters. Even if they could push over the tree with enough time and effort, or even climb it since grizzilys can also climb (albeit much slower then black bears), they are opportunistic hunters and would probably deem the entire process a waste of effort and lose interest in most cases.
The vast majority of bear attacks are also because a parent feels that their cubs are threatened, so if the bear feels safe again it will most likely pull back.
This is also a worst case scenario. Either the bear is near death and can’t find other prey, or you realllllllllly pissed it off, both scenarios that are pretty rare.
For sure, I wouldn't expect a bear to go after you, but if they want you, they'll find a way to get you.
exactly. Trees don't make it impossible, just make it a pain in the ass to get you compared to sleeping on the ground. You aren't moving when you sleep, so intimidation and weapons aren't an option. If there is easier food for these predators, then they'll go for that. If you seem like too much of a pain in the ass compared to what they know are easier options then you are safe from being targeted.
See, I was thinking you'd have to piss the bear off first and it chases you up the tree. If you're just sleeping up there, it's probably ok.
I love being alone in the woods personally. I walk in the dark every morning. I’ve listened to missing 411 stories, and I feel fine since I’m not a small child.
Just remember to pack pepper spray and bear spray
Honestly, the bear spray will work just fine if you forget the pepper spray. The inverse is not true.
Better off using the pepper spray on yourself in that instance, give some seasoning to the bear's next meal.
Same. Like, what are the chances two psychopaths will be in that specific part of the woods, right?
I'm the "thing in the swamp" people should be afraid of
Same but also living in the woods is so much cheaper you gotta have "rich parents money" to afford a place by the sea.
Not really. Coastline is very cheap with how much of it there is, and I don’t need to be in a resort town or in the tropics. A sleepy fishing town would be more then enough for me.
I guess it's highly regional. My whole adult life I've basically been getting forced further and further inland by my rent rising faster than my pay, but this is in California.