this post was submitted on 12 Dec 2023
365 points (97.2% liked)

World News

38563 readers
3430 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

President Joe Biden said Tuesday Israel’s prime minister needs to change his hardline government and support for the country’s military campaign is waning amid heavy bombardment of Gaza. ... “This is the most conservative government in Israel’s history,” Biden said, adding that the Israeli government “doesn’t want a two-state solution.”

It's mind-blowing how thoroughly Netanyahu has bungled this. They had damn near the entire world in full support after Hamas' horrific attack on Israeli civilians, and they've managed to lose it.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Vietnam and Gaza literally could not be more different places or conflicts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Vietnam is first in every comparison, Israel/Hamas second:

Primarily rural and/or jungle environment vs Dense urban environment

Regular army with decades of experience vs fighting a terrorist force

NVA wanted to hold and occupy territory vs Hamas wanting to just kill, with no political objective to defeat them by

Sociopolitical conflict vs religious extremists

Clear divide of combatants vs non-combatants during mass conflict (i.e. not the random insurgent acts) vs confusion of civilian-laced battlefield

Technology of media being extremely limited vs extremely mobile

Local populace that wants the war and supports the stronger force vs populace that either outright hates you or is too oppressed to express support

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Another big one:

The Americans were fighting the North Vietnamese on Vietnamese soil thousands of miles from home and with no real skin in the game. Also, the North Vietnamese had massive support from other close-by Communist regimes who could feed men and materiel into Vietnam from the north. In contrast, Israel is fighting right on its own border and basically has Hamas surrounded with little possibility of game-changing further aid from outside Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

You got the "jungle" part accurate about Vietnam...

And that media is more mobile these days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Those in the West Bank don't even believe that Hamas did what they did. They vote the attack as a act of defiance and the atrocities committed were just fake news made up by Israel. Sure to Israeli action the oppressed don't see Hamas as worse.