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Yours is a country where people go bankrupt because of millions of dollars of medical debt. Instead of that, if I'm facing millions of dollars in long term treatment why wouldn't I just move to California and thus become a resident? Sure, pay taxes on whatever job but it's not going to come close to my medical expenses.
So, how do you deal with that? It's a very simple question.
No other country has this problem because they have universal healthcare for the whole country, the scenario I described is impossible elsewhere. Non residents generally have to pay or opt into an insurance scheme that the rest of us don't.
That's why this "California could do habe universal healthcare if it wanted" is childish nonsense.
This is an incredibly basic issue to which you seem to have no answers besides misunderstanding how healthcare works in the rest of the world.
Americans would just become expats already if that's how it worked. The idea anyone can just move to California on a whim and somehow afford to live there is hilarious. People largely move based on where they can find employment. There's also very obvious ways to prevent this at the same level it's already regulated at, every country with a public health plan has ways to prevent non-residents from using expensive resources. It's not a profound or even novel issue in the slightest. The GDP of California is larger than many countries who have public healthcare, and I already made the point about prices being like 10x and higher than comparable jurisdictions who's governments can negotiate them with providers.
Lol, is that an actual thought you have? You know all the countries with universal healthcare provide it to their citizens. It takes years but more importantly an application process where you have to disclose pre-existing medical conditions.
Oh? So I work a minimum wage job in Oregon without health insurance. Find out I will incur millions in medical expenses which is more than I can make in a lifetime. Why not move somewhere cheap like Eureka and have those bills taken care of?
You really don't understand the problem do you? Universal healtchare works because expensive illnesses are (relatively) randomly distributed amongst a population. But in your California case, that would no longer be the case. You've created an incredible incentive for the most expensive people to be a part of the system.
It's really not difficult.
As you get older you'll (hopefully!) learn that in cases like this, it's way better to just admit you're wrong. Believe it or not, people will respect that more than someone arguing increasingly sillier and sillier ideas. At this point, you're just making the left sound like a bunch of stoned goofs who have very kind albeit completely nonsensical ideas.