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Matrix or Signal only for me. nobody uses Whatsapp here in the states, sms is simply insecure in every way, and telegram has very suspicious roots imo, along with a lack of e2ee and a terrible ui.
signal is the most secure option and matrix is federated making it the most "open" option.
"Nobody uses Whatsapp here in the states"
Man I wish I had your friends. The only non-iMessage app I can get everyone to use is WhatsApp. And I don't have an iPhone.
I mean, I'm not in any better of a camp. all of my friends refuse to get off discord.
I'm in the states, I know loads of people using whatsapp. I'm in several group chats.
I've literally never met anyone that even knows what it is, although I thought it would be obvious just based on how people talk that I was speaking anecdotally and not from literal statistics. I come across Facebook messenger somewhat commonly but never Whatsapp.
it's a lose lose regardless lmao
congrats you're an outlier I suppose. I've only met maybe 5 people that know what Whatsapp is. telegram is marginally more popular but only because a lot of drug dealers use it (they would have better luck with matrix or even signal)
I'm surprised with the reactions to this. The only people I use whatsapp with are all outside the US. It's discord/telegram/sms for everyone in the US and it's miserable.
Signal was decent when Musk was promoting it. Then they started throwing in new features without keeping the app functional or thinking about budgeting. So now it's the worst performing chat app, basic functionality like calls are broken, and they want to monetize the app through crypto to cover up their lack of planning.
Matrix is pretty great, but the clients are still pretty bad, also it's confusing as hell to anyone who doesn't understand the idea of federation. I've tried getting people on element, but every single person needed help to create an account and get to chatting, and they've all deleted the app after a while. Also, did matrix fix that encryption bug that was leaking data if someone connected through a different server?
signal works perfectly for me idk wym, I'm not sure how musk promoting it means anything. afaik the matrix leak is fixed
Telegram does have E2EE, just not in regular chats. Its secret chats are E2EE, as are its voice and video calls.
I also think it has the best UI of any of the messengers, personally. It's customizable and very polished overall, at least on Android. Very smooth/optimized while having loads of features and lots of little animations to make things flow nicely without getting in the way.
I do like Signal and Matrix clients as well, though I just wish Matrix had more of a user base.