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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago (33 children)

There is a fine line between valid criticism of gender roles & sexism.

An example of the former would be, "Men are dangerous for women". Of course not all men are dangerous, but it describes the experience of many women & how they have to navigate the world, to not be assaulted.

This one describes the dynamic of a relationship between individuals & assigns a thought pattern to one of those individuals, based on their gender.

Maybe I missed some nuances here & I would be glad to be enlightened, but this looks like plain sexism.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (26 children)

There's a long, documented, researched, history of men being raised to expect things from women. It's not just housework but all kinds of things are taken much more seriously when a woman does something "wrong" than when a man does. It takes a lot of serious introspection and effort to break out of that programming so it's not a surprise that the majority of men don't, or only do so partially. The default state is that this stuff is sort of "invisible" because it seems so normal to how things are. So no, this is a factual description of a "standard" behaviour for men that only some are able to avoid.

If you at all accept that there are harmful but culturally ingrained gender roles then this is a natural consequence of that for anyone who hasn't deeply and actively questioned them. Then as those roles are indeed slowly being broken down it stands to reason that each successive generation is less willing to put up with them - but if you still see them as normal it will come as a surprise.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

If you at all accept that there are harmful but culturally ingrained gender roles

The problem is that all too often those harmful gender roles are only called out as being harmful to women, not to men, but they are. The solution to the gender roles issue is not digging trenches between genders.

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