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[–] [email protected] 76 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Nobody should want these guys to finish the job, especially before the election. That's a recipe to end up with President Vance, and the man is an absolute moron. He makes Dan Quayle look like the spelling bee champion.

Donald Trump doesn't deserve to die from an assassin's bullet. He deserves to die of natural causes, in prison.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago

Vance is immensely unlikable even amongst the republican base. And the past eight years have made it clear that trump can only really get trump elected. The only downside of him going to hell is that it will give republicans a few more years to figure out their post-trump pivot (which seems to be liz cheney).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I feel like with Vance if no one specifically woke him up in the morning and made him his pop tarts he'd just miss the inauguration

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I heard he is banned from Hyatt place chain wide since they all have couches.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh god he locked himself in the junior suite with the futon, call the fire department

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You are right, but I dont think the cult would unify around someone else that quickly. In fact, I think chaos that nobody that is sane would truly want would immediately ensue.

On the other hand, every minute he is allowed to operate is a minute that extremists like the Proud Boys, Christian Nationalist, and just an unimaginable rogue gallery of others is actively injected into roles that they can cause extreme damage at.

The unfortunate part is my second point will continue being true rather Trump is bunking in Reagan's torment pitch or not. Mask off will be the policy going forward, just manipulative nasty shit that gets nothing done but the rich richer and the Earth sicker.

Edit: and since I'm ranting I'd like to add; I care not one bit about "justice" served to Trump. I care only that we can recover from and avoid the circumstances that brings people like him to power. Send him to oblivion, lock him in a cell, leave him to die in an old person's home alone once he outlives his use, whatever. I care that we notice what brings these people to power; Fear, Instability, and the abandonment of our own citizens. If we dont educate and care for one another, we are more susceptible to fascism again and again. If we dont strengthen our most vulnerable, and instead cater to those who already have everything, this will just happen again.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Let's not pretend that the man doesn't know exactly what he is doing. His only deficit is in charisma.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Also, if trump's out, I could totally see someone like Romney stepping up, playing the "adult in the room" card, rallying a ton of centrists and economic right folks and getting just enough of the maga types (because he's not a minority woman) to win.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While I would take Romney over the majority of Republicans, there is zero chance that he would rally any kind of enthusiasm with the Republican base. In fact, he would likely drive away undecided voters who were leaning Trump since he is reasonable and the only reason to go with Trump is because of misremembering his time in office or wanting a narcissistic strong man.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Again I only think a Romney type creature could find any toe hold in a post trump... Absence.

But totally speculation, could go 180. Loomis 2025?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's 0 chance the RP would put Vance up as the new nominee, unless they're already bound and required to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We're about 2 weeks out from there literally being no other option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Then wait two weeks. I'm pretty sure Harris will beat trump pretty easily, and I think she'd beat Vance by even more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Harris has left it down to the margin on the issue of Gaza. I expect a pivot from here on Oct 12th, at which point I think she'll have it locked up.