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I had no idea this issue had been identified. While I find this tool very useful, the project is seeming rather questionable to me now.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Hey guys open source is great you can look at all the code and therefore there are no security backdoors etc. Also here are a bunch of pre-compiled blobs in the repo, don't worry about those, but they are required to run the program.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right, the fact that it's open is the reason this came to light, and we're having this discussion

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Exactly. Acting like this is an “ah-ha, see?!!” moment when this is exactly what open source is designed for. That’s like saying global warming is a hoax because “oh look it’s snowing”.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (3 children)

God I hate people who use github comments for their own benefit. "Just fork it bro" is never helpful.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

For me the problem is more in GPL violation: they distribute blobs under GPL3, user made a request of the source code by creating an issue, but they ignored that request. It is not only about "you have to fix it" versus "just fork it" imo.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree that comments like that are unhelpful/unnecessary, but how is that "for their own benefit"? Other than the actual devs themselves using that as a way to just ignore issues, I do not follow

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It makes them feel good and devalues the quality of discussion. Benefits them, harms others.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago

Makes me wonder how far the closest alternative, glim, could be upgraded to match Ventoy given the confines of GRUB.

Someone had mentioned that Fedora fails to verify when booting from Ventoy. Now I'm thinking if I could dd the media loaded via Ventoy and compare with an original copy to see what changed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I like multiboot. Used it back when I used Windows.
The Ventoy advertisements on Reddit looked too suspicious, so I never checked it out.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Time for a fork, then?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Thank you for sharing this. I remember using Ventoy quite often back when I was still on Windows. I'll be sticking with the good old dd command.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Good ol' disk destroyer

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Any alternatives to this tool? I've used it a lot lately because I was testing out live OSes before installing one to the hard drive, but otherwise I don't need it on a daily basis.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (8 children)

but otherwise I don’t need it on a daily basis.

I'll be real, this is part of why I didn't understand Ventoy. I keep a bunch of large, fast thumbdrives around blank and available. When I need/want to put an OS on there, I do it when I need it, and then I'm always installing the most current version of the install. It takes under 5 minutes, at best.

I used to try to keep various installs on thumbdrives... but it would be two years down the line by the time I needed to use it again and by that time it's literally pointless to be using two year old installation media.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Part of the point behind Ventoy is that you don't need to prepare the USB to be bootable. You can just copy/paste the whole iso into Ventoy and it will be bootable. New release comes out? Just copy it onto your USB drive. Don't even need to remove the old version of you don't want to.

Makes things much easier in the tech world for having a single USB with 50+ bootable tools and installers on there like with MediCat (which uses Ventoy as a base).

Only thing I've had issues with booting from Ventoy is the ProxMox install iso. Everything else has worked first try.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

All my laziness about not checking it out has come to fruition. Now I simply don't have to, because this is sketch as fuck until it is handled.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Need to compare hashes between a stock ISO and one ~~flashed~~ booted by Ventoy (dd the latter to a file and check)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wat? Ventoy doesn't flash isos, it boots from them

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've had too many issues with Ventoy that I'd rather just use fedora media writer or balenaetcher for when that doesn't work. I mean honestly it's a bit gimmicky, even if it's a cool concept. I believe Glim and some other options exist too

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Ugh, balenaetcher messed with my USB pen drive so that I had to jump through hoops to make it usable again. Based on web searches, this was not uncommon at that time. I haven't had issues with ventoy so far. However, maybe I'll just go back to Rufus.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I never trusted it because I thought it was completely proprietary. Well now I know it basically is.

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